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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Cash for Clunkers
  • Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:43:09 -0700 (PDT)

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, Marie McHarry <mmcharry AT gmail.com> wrote:



Fortunately, you can all abstain from using the healthcare system and
won't need to worry about it.

Marie

 
 
 
We might be able to abstain from using healthcare servcies, but they will
still force us to pay for others to use it........
 
Because if you don't have healthcare "at any time during the tax year" (i.e.
a month) or attempt to abstain from the entire healthcare
system................. Section 58 B. TAX  ON INDIVIDUALS WITHOUT ACCEPTABLE
HEALTH CARE COVERAGE kicks in.
 
Under 58B you are going to get taxed 2.5% of a modified AGI in an amount not
to exceed the annual premiums paid across the country .......... to help pay
for those who do sign up....  Modified under one section means that those
people who have invested in tax free municipal bonds, will have to include
that interest income as if it were taxable..
 
(In FL health insurance for me was over $650.00/month.  The same company and
a better policy in NM is $330 a month)....  So if I chose to forego health
insurance, in theory, if employed, the 59B TAX PENALTY could go up to the
national average of premiums, which is higher than my state....(round it off
the 500 month, that is a $6000 increase in tax --- for what?)
 
There is an exemption for those members of religious sects that refuse
medical care....as long as your church certifies that you are activelyl
practicing yada yada......
 
People who don't have, don't want health insurance of any kind will have to
pay 2.5% higher income tax --- a penalty for not swallowing the mandatory
governmentprogram hook line and sinker.  I could care less if people don't
have heatlh insurance, as long as they don't expect me to pay for their
medical care. 

OK,,,,,,,,,,,,, so.... let's see.  A lot of people can only find part time
work - and in some cases part-time if they are lucky.  They can't afford
premiums for private, company offered or government sponsored........ and
they will have to pay higher taxes... On the other end are the super weathly
who don't even have health care because they can afford to pay.... they will
also have to pay 2.5% more in tax.
 
Whatever happened to STATES RIGHTS to self-determination ?
 
This government mandated plan is just plain dishonest.



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Yes, they do. *Most* neglect to mention that it took a lot of arguing with
Gates to get *an* ID out of him. Which, btw, was not a legal ID for
identification purposes. His Harvard *faculty* ID is only good on campus.
So, what kind of game is that? Oh, silly me, it is a power game. "See how
important I am. Treat me special."

Yes, he was arrested after he gave the cop his *Harvard* ID. The cop went
down the stairs, SOP, and called in to verify the ID. Again, SOP. A
faculty ID doesn't say where you live. Doesn't prove you belong in that
house. And ID has to be verified.

The order of how things took place is all over the net and in newspaper
story. I think someone posted a copy of two cops reports also which list
the order of things. In the little bit of the tape that the Shiney Thing
cheerleaders played, you can hear Gates yelling, in the background, at the
cop.

I'll have to see if I can find the newspaper articles on Gates coming out on
his porch to yell at the cop.

AND, Gates still owes that woman an apology. Big time. The cop does too
but he didn't call her a racist, Gates did!

Lynda
The press corp is fact-adverse but very fable friendly.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marie McHarry" <mmcharry AT gmail.com>


On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Lynda<lurine AT com-pair.net> wrote:

>.... 99.9% of them would
> not have started screaming accusations OR started calling people to raise
> as
> stink! When the cop asked for ID, 99.9% of blacks, Mexicans, Asians,
> Indians AND white guys would have given the cop their ID.

All news stories that I've read or seen say that Gates was arrested
after he'd given his ID.
>
> NOR would they have followed the cop out of the house after giving him the
> ID and kept screaming at him. Only someone looking to cause a problem
> would
> have done that. Gates knew exactly what he was doing.

Can you give me a news story about this part of the encounter? I admit
I've not been glued to the tube to get the latest details.

Marie
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