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  • From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] thread getting incredibly dull- do we need a -ot list? [was Re: NC considered harmful? Prove it...]
  • Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:23:38 -0400

On Thursday 22 March 2007 10:15 pm, Luis Villa wrote:
> This thread (rather, this complete rehash of things which have been
> discussed over and over again) is getting terribly repetitive and
> dull. Can it end? Nothing that has been said since very early in the
> thread has been new for some years now.
>
> Better yet, can there be a cc-licenses-offtopic or something similar
> that such discussions can preemptively be shunted to when they get
> repetitive, or of interest only to a few? I find that generally the
> signal-to-noise ratio on this list is quite bad, and I have a very
> high tolerance for such things. Maybe a cc-licenses-ot, or just a
> general policy of actively encouraging such discussions to move
> off-list, would help that.

I think this is an excellent idea. I don't know what to call them. One to
discuss CC licenses in a general way, and one for discussing them for
improvements during the "next version" process.

Would that be the correct two breakdowns?

See: http://creativecommons.org/discuss

We see community and licenses general. Of the choices, these sorts of
discussions seem to fit more in the latter.
>
> Luis
>
> On 3/22/07, Javier Candeira <javier AT candeira.com> wrote:
> > Kevin Phillips (home) wrote:
> > >> Writers do not really have such alternatives, as a body
> > >> of text is a body of text is body of test...
> > >
> > > Audio books are a good possibility, or other alternative ways to
> > > deliver the "text".
> >
> > And as anyone can make an audiobook off a by-nc-sa novel, the only
> > difference with by-sa is that -nc only allows the novelist to sell the
> > audiobook.
> >
> > >> Once you've read
> > >> something, you've read it; if it is very good, you might wish to read
> > >> it again, but are unlikely to wish to read it every day or hang it on
> > >> your wall.
> > >> S.M.
> > >
> > > ok. So you need to come to my house and explain to my fiancee why she
> > > doesn't actually need to buy all of Cory Doctorow's books because he
> > > has them online for free download. :) She loves books, likes to
> > > carry them around and read them on trains, swap them with friends.
> > > She's an active bookmoocher and doesn't seem to be so unique in this
> > > regard.
> >
> > Market for novelists is a bit bigger when you not only consider the
> > nutters.
> >
> > > It's apparently also essential to have more than one version of a book,
> > > especially limited edition shiny covered highly-stroke'able expensive
> > > ones!
> > >
> > > :) ...prefereably signed...
> >
> > Of course. And even translations into languages you don't understand.
> > It's the covers, you know? Still, we nutters ('us nutters'?) are a
> > limited market. Most readers pick up whatever cheap paperback edition.
> >
> > -- j

all the best,

drew
--
(da idea man)




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