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  • From: drew Roberts <zotz AT 100jamz.com>
  • To: Javier Candeira <javier AT candeira.com>, Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-licenses] Clarification needed - Copyleft AND Share-Alike with Images
  • Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 09:01:18 -0500

On Tuesday 20 February 2007 08:57 pm, Javier Candeira wrote:
> Erik Moeller wrote:
> > As I've said, I'd be strongly in favor of changing the SA license to
> > require the combination of works in a strong semantic relationship to
> > trigger a secondary SA clause, where each component would have to be
> > licensed under a license which meets the criteria defined at
> >
> > http://freedomdefined.org/Definition
> >
> > but not necessarily the exact same license. This would allow us, at
> > Wikimedia, to combine pictures under CC-BY-SA with GFDL articles
>
> Some of my flickr photos, which are by-sa, have been used in wikipedia
> without any problem:
>
> Original photo:
> http://flickr.com/photos/hiperactivo/59294852/
> Wikimedia photo:
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Toshio_Iwai.jpg
> Wikipedia page:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshio_Iwai
>
> As the license stands, they can also be used by newspapers and media
> organisations, as long as they abide by the terms of the license. This
> means they can print my photos on their newspaper without copylefting the
> whole newspaper, but stating my authorship and letting anyone else also
> copy the picture under the license.
>
> As I understand it, printing the photo on a paper is "mere aggregation",
> however strong the semantic relationship may be, and I like the license
> just the way it is.
>
> > Copyleft should _mean_ copyleft, regardless of the type of work that
> > is being copylefted. The situation where music in a movie triggers
> > share-alike, and a picture in an article does not, is morally
> > unacceptable.
>
> Another solution would be to change the law, or the doctrine, so music in a
> movie *doesn't* trigger share-alike, and is considered "mere aggregation".
> We need less strictures, not more.

Ah, not all of us agree with that. I like the way it works for songs and
movies. I would like it to work that way for more types of things. Can you
tell me the problems you see arising from my desires?
>
> Regards,
>
> -- javier

all the best,

drew
--
(da idea man)




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