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  • From: CC AT iblist.com
  • To: Discussion on the Creative Commons license drafts <cc-licenses AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: Open database, closed site
  • Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:40:59 -0500

I can see I worded that very badly. My intent of the comment about
downloading
through me only was to (legally) prevent people from using an automated
program
to scour the site. There are a few programs out there now that do this to
major book sites, and I don't agree with it.

As for the copyright information, here is the system I am planning on using
(something I put together quickly, so ignore spelling):

<b>The book, author, and series information from the database :</b>
*Share Alike. If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may
distribute the resulting work only under a license Identical to this one
(Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v 1.0).

*Noncommercial. You may not use this work for commercial purposes.

*Attribution. You must give the original author credit. In this case, the
author is the Internet Book List (iblist.com) and Steven Jeffery.


<b>The pages from the site itself (code):</b>
All rights are reserved. The code and layout/design of the Internet Book List
is the property of its owner.

<b>Reviews, comments, and user information</b>
User reviews and comments are the property of the individual that posted
them.
By submitting reviews and comments, that person is giving iblist.com
permission
to display them on iblist.com only. Users can ask to have their content
removed at any time by following the procedure outlined in the review section
of the FAQ.

User information gathered through registration (names, e-mail addresses, etc)
is
for use of iblist.com staff only. These will never be sold to third parties.
We respect your right to privacy.


Quoting email AT greglondon.com:

> On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:53:34 -0500, CC AT iblist.com wrote:
> > For various reasons, adopting a completely open source
> > policy is not what I and the users want.
>
> There is no CC license, nor any Open Content license,
> that prohibits verbatim copy/distribute of a work.
>
> That is a fundamental requirement of openness. See:
> http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php
>
> If you are unwilling to allow verbatim copy/distribute
> of the work, you do not wish to adopt ANY open source
> policy, and you should use the license "All rights
> Reserved". People will be able to go to your website
> and peruse your database, but they will not be able
> to copy/paste it into their own works.
>
> Your stats claim 18,000 titles have all been submitted
> by its users, and that "We do not claim any ownership
> over the user-submitted data."
>
> But your email states your intent is to now claim
> ownership on these 18,000 user contributions,
> declaring "All Rights Reserved".
>
> Did you inform your contributers of your intent
> to take ownership of their works? Doing so without
> their permission would be, at the very least,
> majorly uncool.
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