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  • From: "Jerry~Yuyu" <jerry.tschan.yu AT gmail.com>
  • To: Charles Mok <charlespmok AT gmail.com>
  • Cc: PY Yick <yick50907551 AT gmail.com>, Charles Mok <mok AT isoc.hk>, asmartlawyer <asmartlawyer AT 126.com>, Kathy Kleiman <Kathy AT kathykleiman.com>, Ka Ping Wong <ping AT isoc.hk>, cc-hk <cc-hk AT lists.ibiblio.org>, Ying Chan <yychan AT hku.hk>
  • Subject: Re: [Cc-hk] ICANN Consultation@HK: Sharing our discussion with Dr. Hong Xue
  • Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:59:38 +0800

I think we should have at least an event page on facebook

otherwise is quite hard for my fd PY to use his power in fb :p

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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 12:24, Charles Mok <charlespmok AT gmail.com> wrote:
Local press mostly can't even spell Icann yet. May take some time to
'educate'. Must admit we are not as up to speed as we should be abt
these issues on a community basis.

On 7/20/09, Kathy Kleiman <Kathy AT kathykleiman.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> Charles and I have both mentioned Dr. Hong Xue in our emails. Since she
> and I were talking separately, I thought it might be nice to bring
> everyone together. I have cc'd Hong above -- thanks for joining us!
>
> I think ICANN will be surprised, and concerned, if all of you can speak
> at the microphones on Friday.
>
> Also, is there any local press you can speak to? We found that briefing
> the New York Times on our concerns before the NYC meeting was important
> to his preparation for the meeting -- and he reflected our concerns in
> his article.
>
> Best and great tx,
> Kathy
>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Kathy Kleiman
>> <Kathy AT kathykleiman.com <mailto:Kathy AT kathykleiman.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Charles, Ying, and Jack,
>>     I am so glad you can attend the ICANN meeting on Friday. What can
>>     I do to assist you?  The IRT Report is lengthy and difficult (on
>>     purpose, to make it difficult to criticize).
>>
>>     In Sydney, since we had only a few minutes at the microphones,
>>     everyone took a difference piece -- and expressed their concerns
>>     based on the work of their organization. One group criticized the
>>     IP Clearinghouse, another the Globally Protected Marks List,
>>     another the URS (too rapid take-down system for domain names).  We
>>     also referenced NCUC's general deep concerns about the other issues.
>>
>>     Please feel free to share ideas, and I am happy to assist with
>>     editing, links or examples. Like Sydney, you will only have about
>>     2-3 minutes at the microphone. Having a short written statement
>>     worked well for me (NYC) and Konstantinos (London).
>>
>>     Rebecca has done a wonderful job laying out (and writing) key
>>     documents below. I have a few more....
>>
>>     1) The outstanding comments of Leslie, Guan Yuanyuan (Legal
>>     Supervisor, China Organizational Name Administration Center).
>>     These comments analyze and compare Chinese trademark law and US
>>     trademark law. They argue that the IRT "ignores the difference in
>>     state's jurisdictions, ignores the protection of domain name
>>     registrant's rights, and with the paranoiac and simple intention
>>     protects the rights of trademark holders" (from closing comment).
>>     Leslie gave terrific speeches in Sydney and you will like these
>>     comments! -- at
>>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/irt-final-report/msg00129.html
>>
>>     I have copied her above.
>>
>>     2) The strong comment of Dr. Hong Xue, Chinese Domain Name Users
>>     Alliance, and her opposition to the IP Clearinghouse and Globally
>>     Protected Marks List because: "ICANN, in its limited technical
>>     coordination role as declared in its mission, has absolutely no
>>     authority to create any international or even global law to change
>>     the territorial nature of trademark rights. What is recommended by
>>     IRT is to set up a private ordering through ICANN DNS governance
>>     to create a de facto global enforcement for trademarks,
>>     irrespective of legal limits of trademark protection."
>>
>>     Hong's full comment is at
>>     http://forum.icann.org/lists/irt-final-report/msg00138.html
>>
>>     3) My speech in NYC is posted on YouTube at
>>     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgUC869bTVM (please let me know if
>>     you would like the text).
>>
>>     Good luck in HK!
>>     Best,
>>     Kathy
>>
>
>

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