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  • From: elliott bledsoe <e.bledsoe AT qut.edu.au>
  • To: "cc-au AT lists.ibiblio.org" <cc-au AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-au] It's all about google!
  • Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:42:47 +1000

hey steve

thanks for the heads up. i actually was about to publish my own criticisms of the terms of use for chrome when google announced changes to it so i was waiting for an updated version of the terms before i did. will post a link when the entry is up.

for the record, this email was to point of some of the initiatives coming out of google at the moment using creative commons and open source software licences. it doesn't mean that creative commons australia has an particular "enthusiasm" for google.


_elliott

On 04/09/2008, at 6. 05PM, Steve Olive wrote:

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:45:02 pm elliott bledsoe wrote:
hello all. it would seem that all the exciting new from creative
commons at the moment is coming out of google.

not that long ago google code (http://code.google.com) introduce cc
licensing, allowing hosted projects to release their code under the
attribution and the attribution-share alike licences. find out more
here:
http://google-code-updates.blogspot.com/2008/07/introducing-content-license
s-on-google.html

and of course, google knol (http://knol.google.com), a site for
publishing "authoritative" articles, not only allowed users to license
under the attribution and the attribution-noncommercial licences from
the moment the service was launched, but it also set attribution as
the site default, meaning people have to make a conscious decision to
release their material under "all rights reserved."

but more recently (as recent as tuesday) google adopted cc on two
projects. google announced on the google photo blog
(http://googlephotos.blogspot.com ) that google's desktop photo management
software picasa (http://picasa.google.com ) now includes rights management
as part of the settings. users can maintain "all rights reserved" copyright
or apply any of the standard cc licensing suite. a user can define a
default cc licence for all of their work and manage individual photos on a
case-by-case basis. of particular interest is the licence chooser that
google has developed for picasa. i've blogged about it at
http://ccelliott.blogspot.com/2008/09/googles-picasa-photo-software-now.htm
l

also on tuesday, google started a public relations campaign about
their new web browser google chrome (http://google.com/chrome). chrome
is an open source web browser released under the bsd licence
(http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php ). boasting a whole new
experience of the web it incorporates google's trade mark minimal chic in
its design with nifty features tucked away in convenient places.
unfortunately for anyone not on windows, it is only available for pc at the
moment.

but what is interesting about chrome was google's decision to release
the pr material under a creative commons attribution-noncommercial-no
derivative works licence. as i said on my blog, an interesting
marketing campaign by google: get scott mccloud to create a comic book
explaining your new project using cartoon characters of your actual
project team talking about the project. stick the comic and the comic
only in an envelop and post it to jouranlists. done. with the cc
licence on it, the campaign will spread itself. i've blogged about
their use of cc for the pr campaign here:
http://ccelliott.blogspot.com/2008/09/start-viral-campaign-googles-pr-for-n
ew.html more about chrome here:
http://ccelliott.blogspot.com/2008/09/where-for-art-thou-chromeo.html



_elliott

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You may want to re-think your enthusiasm for everything Google. See
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/09/03/google_chrome_eula_sucks/ for full
report.

Basically from the EULA:

   "11. Content licence from you

   11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights that you already hold in
Content that you submit, post or display on or through the Services. By
submitting, posting or displaying the content, you give Google a perpetual,
irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free and non-exclusive licence to reproduce,
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and
distribute any Content that you submit, post or display on or through the
Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display,
distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services
as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services."

Anything you submit post or display using Chrome you give away to Google for
ever.

So, my question is: How will they know this? Does this mean everything you
post, upload or display is also transmitted to Google's servers?

How does this fit with Google's "Do no evil" ethic?

--
Regards,

Steve
Bathurst Computer Solutions
URL: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au
e-mail: steve AT bathurstcomputers.com.au
Mobile: 0407 224 251
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