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  • From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>
  • To: CS Bartholomew <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net>
  • Cc: BIblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] elohim versus aggelous, Psalm 8:6[5] MT verses LXX
  • Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 02:42:31 -0700

On 26/09/2003 22:54, CS Bartholomew wrote:

On 9/26/03 9:21 PM, "CS Bartholomew" <jacksonpollock AT earthlink.net> wrote:


On 9/26/03 8:23 PM, "Philip" <phil-eng AT ighmail.com> wrote:


A careful comparison of the MT against the LXX of Psalm 8:6[5] reveals an
almost word-for-word verbatim presentation. It is highly unlikely that the
LXX vorlage of Psalm 8:6[5] is different from the MT vorlage of Psalm
8:6[5].
This does not follow. Two very different MSS of any ancient document can
vary by only one word in any line, clause, stanza. It isn't valid to draw
conclusions about the identity of the vorlage based on a data sample of this
size.



Lets assume, for the purpose of discussion only, that Psalm 7,8 and 9 were
all part of the same MS used to translate the LXX. E.Tov's MT/LXX database
doesn't report any pluses or minuses in Psalm 8, only a minor word order
difference in Psa.8:8 eti de kai.
...

Perhaps Philip's point is no more than Tov's, that there is no evidence of any differences within Psalm 8 itself. You seem to read him as making a stromg statement that there could not have been any. Of course we don't know that. We just know that there is no evidence that there was any. It is of course possible that the LXX Vorlage read mel'akim rather than 'elohim at this point, but that is an unlikely textual corruption, and the anomalous translation in LXX can more easily be explained in other ways. Perhaps Philip shouldn't have assumed that this isn't a textual issue, but then he may have thought that this was rather obvious.


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