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  • From: "Lee R. Martin" <lmartin AT vol.com>
  • To: "Dave Washburn" <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
  • Cc: "b-hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: Re: Toldot
  • Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 09:42:03 -0500


Dear Dave and Others,
Wiseman's theory does not fit the Genesis material for several reasons.
First of all, the Babylonian accounts did not use the word "toledoth."
Secondly, most of the occurrences of toledoth in Genesis are clearly
headings. Thirdly, I believe that Wiseman has a vested interest. I seem to
remember that he is attempting to prove that the Moses pieced together
ancient sources from the second millennium BCE. (See also R. K. Harrison)
I am at home now, because my wife had surgery yesterday; but when I get back
to my office I will post my recent paper on the toledoth formula on the
Internet for a couple of days. It is appearing in a copyrighted book, so I
am not sure what is acceptable. I may just post a few excerpts.
Lee R. Martin


----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Washburn <dwashbur AT nyx.net>
To: Biblical Hebrew <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: Toldot


>
> > Peter, you make the comment below in your post that Toldot signifies the
beginning of
> > an accounting. Have you seen P.J. Wiseman's research (from his book "New
> > Discoveries in Babylonia about Genesis") in which he describes the
Toldot passages
> > as ENDS of accounts, where Toldot signifies a sort of a colophon, which
were
> > commonly placed at the end of Akkadian and Sumerian documents?
>
> I haven't read this particular book, but I did come across a book in
> the early 80's, I couldn't tell you the author or the actual title
> (something to do with "Ancient Records" or somthing like that), all I
> remember is it was published by Nelson (big help...) that took the
> same approach. If these books are correct, it makes the
> "generations of the heavens and the earth" reference in Gen 2
> much more sensible, as well as several others. Like you, I wonder
> what Peter thinks of this idea since he's worked through all the
> references?
>
>
> Dave Washburn
> http://www.nyx.net/~dwashbur
> Teach me your way, O Lord, and I will walk in your truth;
> give me an undivided heart that I may fear your name.
> Psalm 86:11
>
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  • Toldot, Jonathan Bailey, 11/28/1999
    • <Possible follow-up(s)>
    • Re: Toldot, George Athas, 11/28/1999
    • Re: Toldot, Dave Washburn, 11/28/1999
    • Re: Toldot, peter_kirk, 11/29/1999
    • Toldot, Kevin L. Barney, 11/29/1999
    • Re: Toldot, Lee R. Martin, 11/30/1999
    • Re: Toldot, Dave Washburn, 11/30/1999

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