Hi Peter,Thank you for continuing to help me here. Yes, you may be right about `abdeka, and certainly about "your humble servant", that they are analysable. But I am far from sure that this is not true of Turkish "bendeniz", especially since the variant "bendeleri" is found, and these forms are very clearly the second and third person plural possessed form of a known noun "bende". Yet you put forward the Turkish as an example. So I remain a bit confused about the criteria.
If were are talking about grammaticalisation here, we should not need to EXPECT grammatical agreement. If `abdeka were a grammaticalised polite pronoun, it should be analysable pretty much solely as a polite pronoun, i.e. [`abdeka] = polite 1st person polite pronoun, rather than [[`ebed] = "servant" + [ka] = 2ms] = polite 1st person noun phrase reference. Do you see the difference? The question is: to what extent is `abdeka grammaticalised, or, put another way, synchronically analysable? I think in the minds of speakers it was still thought of in its constituent parts.
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