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  • From: Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86 AT>
  • To: WikiWorld <wikiworld AT>
  • Subject: Re: [Wiki World] Let's open the list :)
  • Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:46:21 -0400

on 8/31/07 11:57 PM, fredbaud AT at fredbaud AT

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marc Riddell [mailto:michaeldavid86 AT]
> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 10:00 PM
> To: 'WikiWorld'
> Subject: Re: [Wiki World] Let's open the list :)
> on 8/31/07 9:28 PM, fredbaud AT at fredbaud AT
> wrote:
> Well, are you familiar with Wilfred Bion's Experiences in Groups? Fight or
> Flight, etc.?
> Fred
> Oh yes, the Tavistock Group. I have done quite a bit of work with persons
> suffering from PTSD. In addition to individual work, I also have them work
> in
> groups. Some of these persons have gone on to help with a crisis
> intervention
> team I direct which responds to such events as shootings, mine accidents and
> other such traumatic events. There is healing in helping.
> Myself, I worked with Carl Rogers in the 60s at the "Institute for the Study
> of the Person" in California.
> As for "fight or flight"; if you're referring to the Wikien-l List - I very
> probably will choose the fight. Besides I'm getting old - I don't 'flight'
> very fast anymore :-)
> Marc
> No, "Flight or fight" is one of the states a group can get into, a
> singularly
> unproductive state during which little gets done.
> Fred
Yes, but here we are dealing with the third response, "freeze" - which
renders the group incapable of any action. And, without some type of
intervention, this is where the entire Project is headed.

The reality is that Wikien-l is no longer a group - but a splintered,
leaderless, directionless mob. And, my fear is that the entire Project
itself will soon follow.


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