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  • From: Annette <misschief AT earthlink.net>
  • To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa 1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] 1. Re: Callout for female fanzine UK fanzine writers, 1975-1984 (WWWhatsup)
  • Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:24:17 -0600 (GMT-06:00)

Cazz, In the U.K. throughout the Punk years there was a publication called ZigZag that was sort of halfway between a magazine and a fanzine. It was very visible on the scene in London and did much to expose the emergent punk bands to the punters. I would say it played a part in fanning the fire of the early punk movement.

The mag was edited by Kris Needs who has since published a book on the times. ZigZag was male dominated in production but gave a lot of coverage to female bands.

Despite the exclusive 'men's club' of contributors to ZigZag, I managed to get two hard-hitting editorials published therein, in 1978. My boyfriend at the time knew Kris Needs, and I had to add my boyfriend's name (Robin Banks) to the byline to get them accepted, but at least I saw my work in print.

Don't know if this would interest you or not.

My friend Vermilion Sands and I also did the first EVER published interview of the Clash, conducted in London and printed in the San Francisco-based fanzine Search & Destroy in early1977. We also interviewed the Damned for publication in Search & Destroy.These were the first articles on these bands to be published in the U.S., I believe.

Have no idea if this interests you, but the content of these lengthy articles/interviews was serious and of importance at the time.

Annette Weatherman, 417-861-3625

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From: Cazz Blase
Sent: Mar 6, 2016 3:42 PM
To: typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [TypicalGirls] 1. Re: Callout for female fanzine UK fanzine writers, 1975-1984 (WWWhatsup)

Thanks Joly, it's interesting to have a little bit more info about Better Badges. 

I've tracked a couple of people down, but there are more I'd like to find. Pseudonyms make it harder though.

Cazz


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   1. Re: Callout for female fanzine UK fanzine writers,        1975-1984
      (WWWhatsup)
   2. Raincoats lyric book + "Shouting Out Load"        performance this
      Saturday [was Re: Callout for female fanzine      UK fanzine writers,
      1975-1984] (HunnyPi007 AT aol.com)
   3. Hinds review (Joly MacFie)


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From: WWWhatsup <joly AT dti.net>
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?Good luck Cazz,

At Better Badges I printed a whole bunch of fanzines between 79-82 and I
don't think a single one of one of them was female authored?! I never
really thought about it til now.

?I did print a little lyrics book for The Raincoats., and distro'd
International Anthem for Gee.

?I'll be very interested to see what you come up with.?

?joly?


On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Cazz Blase <cazz.blase AT gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm very new to this list, so I should probably introduce myself.
>
> My name is Cazz Blase, I wrote a five part series on women and UK punk for
> the F-Word website (www.thefword.org.uk) between 2010 and 2011. I'm in
> the process of turning the series into a book, and for that, I need more
> interviewees.
>
> Because I'm interested in how women contributed to the growing mythology
> of punk, I'm interested in speaking to female fanzine writers who were
> writing punk fanzines in the UK at anytime between 1975 and 1984.
>
> I've tracked a few people down, and I realise it's likely to be a very
> small group of people to draw from in any case, but...
>
> I would be very interested in tracking down Crystal and Sarah who did More
> On and Sharon Spike who did Apathy in Ilford.
>
> If anyone happens to have a lead on how I might track them down, I'd be
> very, very grateful indeed.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Cazz
>
> --
> Cazz Blase
> Writer and journalist
> http://cazzblase.blogspot.co.uk/
> http://toolateforcake.wordpress.com
> cazz.blase AT gmail.com
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:19:58 -0800
From: "HunnyPi007 AT aol.com" <HunnyPi007 AT aol.com>
To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa
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Subject: [TypicalGirls] Raincoats lyric book + "Shouting Out Load"
        performance this Saturday [was Re: Callout for female fanzine   UK
        fanzine writers, 1975-1984]
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Still have that very charming Raincoats lyrics book (which Ana and the band sent to me in the U.S. after I sent them an ecstatic letter when I was in high school). Loved it then and still do. Yay, Joly! ; )

Also, UK TG?s will want to know that a performance of "Shouting Out Loud? with Gaby Agis and The Raincoats will be happening this weekend in London at Greenwich Dance: http://greenwichdance.org.uk/dance/event/gaby_agis_and_the_raincoats/ .

If anyone here attends, please report to the rest of us here who won?t be as lucky. Thanks!!

Typically,
Lydia


> On Feb 24, 2016, at 9:18 PM, WWWhatsup <joly AT dti.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> ?Good luck Cazz,
>
> At Better Badges I printed a whole bunch of fanzines between 79-82 and I don't think a single one of one of them was female authored?! I never really thought about it til now.
>
> ?I did print a little lyrics book for The Raincoats., and distro'd International Anthem for Gee.
>
> ?I'll be very interested to see what you come up with.?
>
> ?joly?
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Cazz Blase <cazz.blase AT gmail.com <mailto:cazz.blase AT gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm very new to this list, so I should probably introduce myself.
>
> My name is Cazz Blase, I wrote a five part series on women and UK punk for the F-Word website (www.thefword.org.uk <http://www.thefword.org.uk/>) between 2010 and 2011. I'm in the process of turning the series into a book, and for that, I need more interviewees.
>
> Because I'm interested in how women contributed to the growing mythology of punk, I'm interested in speaking to female fanzine writers who were writing punk fanzines in the UK at anytime between 1975 and 1984.
>
> I've tracked a few people down, and I realise it's likely to be a very small group of people to draw from in any case, but...
>
> I would be very interested in tracking down Crystal and Sarah who did More On and Sharon Spike who did Apathy in Ilford.
>
> If anyone happens to have a lead on how I might track them down, I'd be very, very grateful indeed.
>
> Thank you very much,
>
> Cazz
>
> --
> Cazz Blase
> Writer and journalist
> http://cazzblase.blogspot.co.uk/ <http://cazzblase.blogspot.co.uk/>
> http://toolateforcake.wordpress.com <http://toolateforcake.wordpress.com/>
> cazz.blase AT gmail.com <mailto:cazz.blase AT gmail.com>
> --
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Joly MacFie  218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast
> WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com <http://wwwhatsup.com/>
http://pinstand.com <http://pinstand.com/> - http://punkcast.com <http://punkcast.com/>
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2016 22:01:20 -0500
From: Joly MacFie <joly AT punkcast.com>
To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa
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Subject: [TypicalGirls] Hinds review
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http://www.bristol247.com/channel/culture/music/reviews/review-hinds-the-fleece

I swear, if The Ramones and The Ronettes had ever got it on, their baby
would sound like Hinds - a glorious garagey, punky, souly baby.

Their songs are never long enough for you to bore of them; a simple and
effective trick that works well against their ramshackle delivery.  They
kick off with the rowdy, distorted Warning With The Curling, reminiscent of
the C86 bands of the mid-80?s and the crowd is totally on board.  Next up
is Trippy Gum, which (as with most of their songs) is a tempo teasing,
lo-fi mash-up of raucous high energy garage and slow, heady Balearic - how
that?s even possible, I?m still not quite sure. The set moves swiftly and
they churn out Fat Calmed Kiddos, Warts and Between Cans with typical charm
- the latter a vigorous rendition, ensuring the vocalists get a massive
workout.

>From there, the scrunchie-clad four-piece unleash a stack of riotous tunes
that female-driven post-punksters such as The Slits and The Raincoats would
have been proud of.  And those bands would certainly have forgiven the
missed notes, or the mis-struck chords (such as on Chili Town), because
Hinds? allure is not in their skilled musicianship, but in their magnetism
and vitality.  Which they deliver by the freight-load.



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