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- From: lsmith <yelmo2000 AT yahoo.com>
- To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music \(Circa 1975-1980s\)" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: [TypicalGirls] thinking - sometimes too much
- Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:10:14 -0700 (PDT)
| I feel that the ideas and ideals that I saw in "punk/post-punk/underground music (circa 1975-1980s" have fizzled away. Things I've been thinking about, plus reading your blog (Dina) reminded me of this. The Slits showed me the promise and possibility of joyous nonconformity. I saw all kinds of promises of a different world when I was a kid in 1960s and 70s, and I still find myself surprised that the world looks the way it does now - full of drab colors, conformity, injustices, etc. And all the princess crap, etc! Maybe it's in part because I'm lazy and timid, but I think I relied on other folks to change things for me, and I could walk through the door to a freer future. Sometimes I find myself blaming those who came before me for not following through and changing the world, but I know I've done less than many of
them ever did. I second your questions about "growth and maturation." Breaking free of the expectations of young women must have been a wild adventure for Poly and Ari. I have been watching the generation older than me with the hope that they will change the expectations and general perceptions of older women. So far, it does not appear that things have changed a whole lot. Another thing that's been on my mind is - why didn't/don't we know more about how Ari passed away? If she had cancer, shouldn't we be using that as a cautionary tale to get checked more often? Can we learn from this - and help others? I'm not sure if this is from left field, and conspiracy minded but... I just finished a book about the underground press in the 1960s ("Smoking Typewriters: The 60s Underground Press and the Rise of Alternative Media in America"), and was naively shocked at the
repression (police, fbi, etc) that a lot of underground presses face. I was wondering, was punk subject to anything like that? Is there a possibility that some of the music that was closer to a movement was put under similar pressures? Just a few thoughts. - Lani --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Dina Hornreich <dina.hornreich AT gmail.com> wrote: From: Dina Hornreich <dina.hornreich AT gmail.com> |
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[TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive,
Dina Hornreich, 07/04/2011
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Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive,
Helen McCookerybook, 07/04/2011
- Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive, Dina Hornreich, 07/04/2011
- Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive, Jdipretoro, 07/05/2011
- Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive, Jdipretoro, 07/05/2011
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Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive,
lsmith, 07/06/2011
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Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive,
Dina Hornreich, 07/06/2011
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[TypicalGirls] thinking - sometimes too much,
lsmith, 07/17/2011
- Re: [TypicalGirls] thinking - sometimes too much, Dina Hornreich, 07/17/2011
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[TypicalGirls] thinking - sometimes too much,
lsmith, 07/17/2011
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Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive,
Dina Hornreich, 07/06/2011
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Re: [TypicalGirls] I really wish Poly Styrene were still alive,
Helen McCookerybook, 07/04/2011
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