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  • From: Duane Malcolm <d.malcolm AT auckland.ac.nz>
  • To: Andrew <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>
  • Cc: sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] Starting from scratch (again)
  • Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 09:19:04 +1200

I was there about the same time Craig was. I didn't get Sorcerer going, will try again at a later date. But some features I liked.

1. CVS update of the grimoire. Amazing for someone with a 56k modem.
2. Using CVS, Sorcerer sends out news items with the grimoire which you can view with "augur"
3. xdelta updates, again a great feature for someone with a 56k modem
4. During an email conversation with Kyle, he mentioned he was wanting to get the grimoire down to 1024 spells or less. And after thinking about it. I think it's a great idea. I read an article about how a flaw with linux is there are to many people rewriting software instead on supporting, developing or adding missing features to current software. That's not to say there shouldn't be a few of the same type of application, ie. mozilla, galeon, etc... But anyway, let's say there was a core grimoire and an extras grimoire, the core grimoire would include the best of your basic software and the extra will include others. Over time spells in the extra grimoire can be moved into the core grimoire if it's supported by number of Sourcemage users. Because the core grimoire is small, Sourcemage will find it easier to support a core grimoire and be confident it works together.

Other features:
1. Sorcerer has also moved the DEPENDS file into the DETAILS file, so similar to SOURCE[0], SOURCE[1], etc.. it lists the dependencies by having DEPENDS[0]=..., DEPENDS[1]=..., OPTIONAL[0]=...., OPTIONAL[1]=....
2. Can cast most of the recent versions of spells, eg, cast mozilla,1.3a or cast mozilla,1.4, there are a default set of BUILD, CONFIGURE files and if the BUILD is different from default there is a BUILD,1.4 file.
3. It also has a flag for the size of the source which can give an estimate of the download size.
4. Compile viewer gave a % completion for the compilation of a spell also had simutaneous casting. Craig will tell you more about this. This is what crashed during my rebuild process and where I gave up.

Feature I that wasn't for me:
1. More configuration ie, you need to know about compilation flags such as -O3, march=?? etc... So a newbie would be lost. I started with Sorcerer when it was first released to learn about linux. My impression is with todays Sorcerer I wouldn't get very far past first base, unless there was good help.
It seems like you could get into a lot of trouble if you don't know what you are doing.

I did like the CVS grimoire, xdeltas and small core grimoire though.

Duane.

Andrew wrote:

Took a trip to the darkside and played with Sorcerer
for a little bit.

welcome back, maybe you can enlighen us with what they are up to.

Now that I am back to SourceMage I have a kind
of unusual question, for me anyway.

After installing from CD and then performing update on
software, a rebuild and installing some X stuff, I have
come to notice that my command line does NOT have things like
ftp or telnet????


you need netkit-telnet and netkit-ftp IIRC.


Is there something I am missing (apart from executables)?

Craig

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