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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery
- From: Dufflebunk <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net>
- To: Aaron Brice <abrice2 AT cox.net>
- Cc: Nick Jennings <nkj AT namodn.com>, Ryan Abrams <rabrams AT sourcemage.org>, Nathan Doss <ndoss AT mtlaurel.org>, <sm-sorcery AT lists.ibiblio.org>, <sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery
- Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:49:23 -0400 (EDT)
Hmm, Weelll... how about spells that create spells then? A function could
be made easily that creates a "fill in the blank" spell...
Well, perhaps not ;)
On 10 Sep 2002, Aaron Brice wrote:
> I have a potentially equally ugly suggestion. How about chained
> spells? Casting sorcery would ask some questions and then download the
> actual sorcery spell from sourcemage.org, install and cast the
> downloaded spell.. Casting kde-i18n or mozilla would bunzip2 the proper
> spell from the spell's subspell subdirectory into /tmp and cast it..
> For sorcery, something like:
>
> BUILD:
> cp -Rp /usr/src/sorcery /tmp/
>
> POST_INSTALL:
> codex_is_directory_a_spell /tmp/sorcery &&
> codex_add_grimoire /tmp 0 &&
> cast sorcery
> codex_remove_grimoire /tmp
> rm -rf /tmp/sorcery
>
> It seems kind of kludgey to me, but just a thought..
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 11:45, Nick Jennings wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:06:19PM -0500, Ryan Abrams wrote:
> > > As far as versioning, all that needs to happen is for the spellwriter to
> > > override VERSION in a custom POST_BUILD. I am not sure if POST_BUILD is
> > > in a
> > > subshell or not. If it is, i will provide a function to cheat it or
> > > something. That way the version written to the install logs and such
> > > can be
> > > determined by the spell.
> >
> > This is pretty ugly, you must admit. So what is VERSION set to in the
> > DETAILS file?
> >
> >
> > > To address knowing if it has been updated... Thats the tricky part. One
> > > option would be to record the branch, and offer multiple versions in
> > > DETAILS.. not sure on that though. To be honest, that is a challenging
> > > part,
> > > and may actually have to wait. The only way I know to do it would be to
> > > just
> > > leave the spell w/ a short LIFESPAN. For something small like a sorcery
> > > spell, that would work. For something big like mozilla it wouldnt. For
> > > something version unrelated like k18n, its irrellevant.
> >
> > This is really not OK. Even for the sorcery spell. Some people dial-up,
> > some peopl have 486 machines. Even the sorcery install would be a
> > PITA for these people.
> >
> > Hell the sorcery spell already takes a surprisingly long time for some
> > reason, I am still trying to determine why. On my PII 566mhz w/ 64mb RAM
> > the spell takes a good few minutes to finish casting. (And thats not
> > even downloading).
> >
> >
> > > the freeze isnt until the 0.9 release, which is the 29th, correct?
> >
> > Correct, however I'd like to avoid switching things on the users as
> > much as possible. We've got to have something working for 0.8.1, and
> > sorcery-stable/devel is going to be it if nothing else can address these
> > inherent problems.
> >
> > I'm thinking about the end users on this one.
> >
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[SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Nathan Doss, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Ryan Abrams, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Nick Jennings, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Ryan Abrams, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Nick Jennings, 09/10/2002
- Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery, Ryan Abrams, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Aaron Brice, 09/11/2002
- Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery, Dufflebunk, 09/12/2002
- Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery, Dufflebunk, 09/12/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Nick Jennings, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Ryan Abrams, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Nick Jennings, 09/10/2002
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Re: [SM-Grimoire]Re: [SM-Sorcery]RFC: Somewhat major change in sorcery,
Ryan Abrams, 09/10/2002
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