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["Mathieu L." <lejatorn AT smgl.homelinux.net>]

Hi,

I'm not sure why you picked ubuntu but you might just want to start
from a minimalistic source based distro like sourcemage.
I dunno about Gentoo since I've never tried it, but the default install
on sourcemage is not cluttered with gazillions of packages, it just
leaves you with basically the basesystem and the text editor of your
choice. 

Since it's source based, you of course get gcc and all the headers and
libs are installed with their respective program (something I hate in
binary distros is having to track all the *-dev packages).

And obviously we have packages for wmii, dwm and plan9ports (although
not always totally up to date since I lack of time to maintain them at
the moment) so you just have to install those and that will be your
working environment from the start.

Otoh, we surely don't have an as user-friendly installer as ubuntu has.

Cheers,
Mathieu.

On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:07:11PM +0100, Anselm R. Garbe wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> during last week I evaluated Windows Vista during my freetime -
> I'm not surprised... The whole system is too slow for me and
> contains only few innovations I consider useful (well most of
> them are also part of OS X, though I'm not uptodate with OS X).
> 
> To a long-year X/wmii/dwm user the most annoying part in Windows
> Vista is the inefficient cut'n'paste handling and the manual
> window organization (even the mouse-driven Snarfing of Plan 9 is
> faster than this braindamaged and inconsistent cut'n'paste
> handling of Windows).
> 
> The trip with Windows Vista lead to a reinstallation of ubuntu
> on my notebook (because I had to re-partition my disk), but the
> ubuntu installation also was very disappointing, because of
> this retarded Gnome environment (XFCE, KDE and Gnome altogether 
> are pretty similiar to the Vista Desktop)...
> 
> With each ubuntu/debian installation I have to install dozens
> of packages to setup my system as I like it to be, this sucks.
> I can't even use a live cd to run my environment on any computer
> - the stuff by Michael Prokop called grml (www.grml.org)
> contains too much stuff I don't regularly use - although it
> comes very near to what I'd like to have.
> 
> I also notice that there is no real Linux distribution with the
> flavor 'designed for C hackers and 9 lovers' out of the box
> (grml closes the gap for sys admins). So I got the idea that I'd
> like to see a new ubuntu flavor called 9ubuntu for '9 lovers and
> C hacker ubuntu' which comes packed with dwm/wmii and all
> necessary tools for developing C code (*-dev, vim, gcc,
> make, plan9ports,...) instead of those clunky desktop
> environments.
> 
> What do people think about this idea? Even if this might not
> be officially supported by the ubuntu community, I'd like to see
> something like this, because I need it. Is there anyone
> interested to initiate such a project?
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
>  Anselm R. Garbe >< http://www.suckless.org/ >< GPG key: 0D73F361
> 

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