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  • From: Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>
  • To: discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] udev and devfs
  • Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:02:11 +0200

On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 11:05:10PM +0800, Craig Dyke wrote:
> Okay ... so i don't fully understand the reasoning behind udev, but,
> why do we bother then to have /dev, /devices and /udev when all appear to
> have the
> same file required in them?

Simple answer: we don't. =)
With the new device setup i wrote in my spells there is only /dev, no
/devices or /udev.
The /devices + /dev thing only exists for historical reasons (sorcerer
used to have a static /dev and devfs on /devices).

> Sorry for being so lame. Just trying to get it straight in my head :)
>
> Craig
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arwed von Merkatz" <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>
> To: "discuss" <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 10:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] udev and devfs
>
>
> > On Mon, Mar 29, 2004 at 10:18:23PM +0800, Craig Dyke wrote:
> > > Arwed
> > >
> > > It appears that Andrew's suggestion worked for me too.
> > >
> > > I was wondering, are we eventually going to try and used just /udev with
> > > maybe a sym link
> > > for /dev?
> >
> > Why would you want to do that? /dev is, has always been and will always
> > be the device directory.
> >
> > > Just curious to figure out way forward?
> > >
> > > Craig
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Arwed von Merkatz" <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>
> > > To: <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:54 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] udev and devfs
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2004 at 06:32:18PM +0200, Andrew ruskie Levstik wrote:
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> > > > >
> > > > > I had the same problem with starting up so I simply did a
> init=/bin/bash
> > > and mounted root rw then mkfifo /dev/initctl and restarted problem
> > > solved...(this happened to me on 2.4.x and 2.6.x
> > > > >
> > > > > just my 2 cents... but for now I'm sticking with static...
> > > >
> > > > Ok, i'll add creation of the initctl fifo to the init.d spell.
> > > > simpleinit really should create it when it doesn't exist though (it
> does
> > > > here).
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:35:41 +0800
> > > > > "Craig Dyke" <grail AT westnet.com.au> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jason
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have the original 2.4.24 from 0.9 ISO and i have
> > > > > > two 2.6 kernels one with and one without devfs
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Craig
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Jason Flatt" <jason AT flattfamily.com>
> > > > > > To: <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 11:32 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] udev and devfs
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Saturday 27 March 2004 7:19 am, Craig Dyke wrote:
> > > > > > > > Arwed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Error I get is:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > init: error opening fifo
> > > > > > > > rc: Booting to runlevel default...
> > > > > > > > INIT_ROOT environment variable not set, using current
> directory!
> > > > > > > > Error opening //dev/initctl: No such file or directory
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It stops hear nad the only action I seem to be able to take is
> to
> > > press
> > > > > > > > ctrl-alt-delete
> > > > > > > > and then reboot process kicks off.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Craig
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Someone on IRC (xeon-, IIRC) was having this problem also. It
> was
> > > > > > determined
> > > > > > > (although it could not be verified) that the problem was somehow
> > > related
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > compatibility problems between a 2.6 kernel and a 2.4 kernel.
> Do
> > > you have
> > > > > > > one of each?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Jason Flatt (jason @ flattfamily . com)
> > > > > > > Father of five (http://www.flattfamily.com/)
> > > > > > > Linux user (http://www.sourcemage.org/)
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