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["Eric Sandall" <eric AT sandall.us>]

Joel Sinor said:
> I live in Texas, but Dallas, and thus not reasonably near the poster (I do
> travel periodically to see family, but it appears I was right and Victoria
> is both rural and far from where I would normally go).  Perhaps a better
> solution would be snail mail.  If I were to send a cd even normal mail it
> should reach him reasonably quickly (1-3 days) and should not cost too
> much.  Any suggestions for considerations for mailing CDRs?

Use a CD-sized box, envelopes bend.  ;)  Hopefully he knows that
source-based distros eat up a lot of bandwidthed....maybe send him a CD
(or two) with /var/spool/sorcery containing most of the basic apps
(xfree86, gnome*, kde*, etc.) and include instructions to copy the CD(s)
to /var/spool/sorcery to save time.

-One of Four
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Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] DO NOT UPDATE!!!!!
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This section of the FAQ might help you:
http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=FaqNewUsers#structure

There are 3 grimoire versions, but for some, there are multiple
locations from which they are available. There are two braches of
sorcery, devel and stable. You can mix and match sorcery and grimoire
versions.
Perforce (like CVS) is used to hold all the development stuff and the
tarballs get pulled from it.


On Wed, 2003-04-16 at 01:34, Joel Sinor wrote:
> Thank you.  I must admit to some confusion as far as the grimoires go.  
> AFAIK I am on the stable grimoire, and tehre were three grimoires to get 
> from scribe (devel test and stable) http://codex.sourcemage.org/
> Then there is all this talk of perforce.  I think I found that grimoire 
> once somewhere in the forest of urls...
> 
> And then there is this curious thing from the faq, making a fifth possible 
> grimoire:
> (from http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=FaqSorcery#updateerror ):
> 
> ---
> When I run sorcery update, it errors out saying it cant find the files?
> 
> You're probably still trying to access the old grimoire. Here's what you 
> need to do:
> To use the grimoire as it stands now, edit
> /var/lib/sorcery/grimoire/utils/sorcery/DETAILS
> and change the SOURCE_URL[0] line to read
> 
>    SOURCE_URL[0]=http://sgl.bccs.net/sorcery/$SOURCE
> 
> 
> All fixed! Note that some people have mentioned that the path is not 
> /var/lib/sorcery/grimoire/utils/sorcery/ but 
> /var/lib/sorcery/grimoire/utils/sgl/ - so if you can't find the first one, 
> try the second one.
> 
> ---
> 
> I looked in there and there is a grimoire and stuff there, but I have not 
> done a lot of digging to figure out what it is.  For now I am just using 
> the grimoires that came with the system.
> 
> Currently I am pulling from http://codex.sourcemage.org/ and my 
> /etc/sorcery/local/grimoire is:
> $ cat /etc/sorcery/local/grimoire
> GRIMOIRE_DIR[0]=/var/lib/sorcery/codex/stable
> GRIMOIRE_DIR[1]=/var/lib/sorcery/codex/test
> GRIMOIRE_DIR[2]=/var/lib/sorcery/codex/devel
> 
> I would be glad to help update documentation if I can clear up this 
> confusion for myself.  (I am surprised "What is perforce?" is not an FAQ).  
> I am also working up some additional doc ideas for stuff I have managed to 
> puzzle out on my own.  (I have been documenting my experiences as I try 
> things out, and should be fixing things soon).
> 
> I still have not quite puzzled out why sorcery rebuild broke both my 
> current sgl machines very badly out of the box.  My current theory is that 
> sources were not available for many things that were on the system (though 
> they are available so far as I can tell on the download.sourcemage.org 
> mirrors http://download.sourcemage.org/stable 
> http://download.sourcemage.org/test http://download.sourcemage.org/devel ) 
> and though they were not available sorcery rebuild dispelled them anyway 
> (and then could not rebuild them).  BUt I have yet to dare to try sorcery 
> rebuild again and test this theory ;).
> 
> Anyway thanks for your time; despite some rough spots I believe I have 
> found my new favorite distro. 
> 
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 22:41:03 -0400
> Dufflebunk <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net> wrote:
> 
> > It was only in the devel sorcery. There is no test sorcery. It is fixed.
> > 
> > On Tue, 2003-04-15 at 22:26, Joel Sinor wrote:
> > > Does this only pertain to test and devel?  Is this really fixed now?
> > > On Mon, 14 Apr 2003 13:56:42 -0400
> > > Dufflebunk <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > This was due to an error introduced yesterday into libcodex. It has 
> > > > been
> > > > fixed in perforce. Please update after the new tarball has been made
> > > > (probably tomorrow for most people).
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 2003-04-14 at 03:47, Bearcat M. Sandor wrote:
> > > > > Uh..Damn,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think i just did..when doing a sorcery update, codex update and 
> > > > > then sorcery 
> > > > > -queue it seems to want to update everything on my system.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is this the same bug? According to gaze install the spells in 
> > > > > question are the 
> > > > > same as in my (messed up) test grimoire. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm on devl sorcery..
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bearcat M. Sandor
> > > > > (The devel made me do it)
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Saturday 15 February 2003 12:06, Jeremy Kolb wrote:
> > > > > > Hey all, the test and devel grimoire tarballs are really messed 
> > > > > > up.
> > > > > > Don't update until it's fixed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeremy
> > > > > >
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