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  • From: Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>
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  • Subject: Re: [SM-Commit] GIT changes to master grimoire by Jaka Kranjc (b588c0494b56d3302075ef0aca41b79778cfe010)
  • Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:21:03 +0100

On Wed, Nov 15, 2006 at 03:52:42PM +0100, Jaka Kranjc wrote:
> > > > I know java is now gpl, but was this addition discussed at all? It's
> > > > kind of serious to add a z-rejected cross-grimoire dependency.
> > >
> > > java is only available from there and I rather did this than moved
> > > everything to z-rejected.
> >
> > I don't think convenience is really relavent. This is a licensing issue
> > and relates back to our social contract. We can't just break that if
> > its convenient.
> So we rather have broken spells? If those spells are moved to z-rejected,
> wouldn't the added argument be a no-op? To me it seems like the first step
> of
> a proper solution.

Only spells with a hard depends on java are technically broken, and
we've usually just kept them that way.
Spells with an optional_depends on JAVA aren't broken, they just have a
no-op dependency if the system doesn't have the z-rejected grimoire.

> >
> > The last time we talked about this the resolution was:
> > free but dependent on non-free but not feasibly freeable -> z-rejected
> > free but dependent on non-free but feasibly freeable -> main w/bug
> > feasable being up to the grimoire lead
> I'm not knowledgeable about java and the fixes affect other people's
> sections/spells, so I have no clue what qualifies as feasibly freeable.
> Maybe I should've asked for the maintainers to clear this up, but you can
> see
> what kind the general mood was from the other thread; relevancy?
>
> > In anycase, you might be able to get away with depending on JAVA or
> > something, but using a cross-grimoire dependency for z-rejected is
> > probably something that should at least be discussed in a wider forum.
> >
> > I would say remove the cross-grimoire part for now.
> Some spells do depend on JAVA, but I don't know how this fixes anything.
>
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