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[Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>]

13 acres...river alluvial...just spent 60 hrs on the 14 ton digger doing
flood retention ponds and swales and flloodways. I'm presently looking at a
small flood channel that meanders through the property to design a
temperate zone chanampa...or real aquaponic system. Put a few Sth Devon
Bulls on to process pasture, manure one  paddock, chooks have started White
Orpingtons. Have ordered a range of trees for next planting season
including 800 apple pear plum and 200 avocado. My 4 yr old daughter
conducted her first inpromtu garden tour the other day for a visitor and
with her 2 yr old sister put together a salad for lunch consisting of 40
different species. Also in the middle of converting an old cow shed /
shearing shed into a dwelling..all off grid....a shed it will remain for
authorities to dwell on...so its all go ...just printed off an AO size
survey plan to draw up the design for presentation purposes. We will be
reincarnating the original Permaculture Institute of NZ soon and may seek
collaboration with Larry n Scott et al for a branch of their Academy. But,
there is only 36 hrs in a day....all good..Steve Hart

On 23 January 2017 at 13:38, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well said, Steve. People Power. As Lion Kuntz proposed Palaces For the
> People.
> Onward!
>
> What kind of work are you doing on your new 14 acre farm?
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes LL....the problem is far bigger than the simple issues mentioned. To
> > understand it and interpret what the reality is far deeper than most of
> us
> > can imagine we need to dig deep and look at all the threads then join the
> > dots. Most information fed us on a minute by minute basis is to mislead
> and
> > deceive in order to lead us on a path far from the real path others are
> on.
> > However, we can see examples through history where "People Power" has
> won.
> > Our Grass Roots power needs mobilising. We have many links in this world
> > which IMO needs massaging supporting and driving, if we have any hope for
> > future generations....Steve Hart
> >
> > On 23 January 2017 at 10:54, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 6:21 PM, Lawrence London <
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > 1)
> > > > My view will not surprise anyone who has been paying attention: This
> > > > another expected turn of the dialectical screw in the emergence and
> > > > hegemony of industrial organic, in line with historical USDA goals.
> > > Toward
> > > > this objective, the agency is using the same Act it has used to
> > subsidize
> > > > big agriculture and foster its monopoly control over every sector of
> > the
> > > > food system. Crumbs are dropped along the way to deceive and pacify
> > small
> > > > farmers. How depressing that so many are fooled. History repeats
> > itself,
> > > > first as tragedy, then as farce.
> > > > --
> > > > Karl North -  http://karlnorth.com/
> > > > "Pueblo que canta no morira" - Cuban saying
> > > > "They only call it class warfare when we fight back" - Anon.
> > > > "My father rode a camel. I drive a car. My son flies a jet-plane. His
> > son
> > > > will ride a camel."
> > > >  —Saudi saying
> > > > 2)
> > > > Agreed Karl, looks like another checkoff program that steals from the
> > > > small producer and benefits many others like industrial organic and
> > folks
> > > > who like to move money around get paid and accomplish very little
> > except
> > > > for enhancing corporate profits..
> > > > Rich Molini
> > > > Atlanta, Indiana
> > > >
> > >
> > > Attn: Steve
> > >
> > > Here is more in this thread:
> > >
> > > "Karl S North" <knorth@binghamton.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ai, caramba, Grace. Your words only reveal how different your view of
> how
> > > the world works is from mine. There was no historical abuse because
> this
> > > checkoff program was designed to generate the outcomes that occurred in
> > > every sector in which it was applied - beef, sheep, grains, you name
> it.
> > > The controlling powers in the food system do not see the version in
> > > question as generic; they see organic as just another commodity sector
> to
> > > conquer and control, which they have pretty much already done. In its
> > > century of existence, the USDA presided over and fostered the most
> > socially
> > > and ecologically destructive form of agriculture in history. There is
> no
> > > good in such an outfit to be made better.
> > >
> > > The problem is much bigger than a single agency of government. Just as
> > half
> > > the electorate refused to vote for two slimy candidates, many small
> > > producers see our whole country as a system of legalized crime,
> > > racketeering by another name.  Louis Brandeis, the first Jew to attain
> > high
> > > office, simply stated what should be obvious: one can have democracy in
> > our
> > > country or one can have most of the wealth concentrated in the hands of
> > the
> > > few, but one cannot have both. Why does it take someone from a
> persecuted
> > > minority to point that out? Why can't legions of highly educated Wasp
> > > liberals figure that out?
> > > On Jan 21, 2017 6:18 PM, "Karl S North" <knorth@binghamton.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Grace Gershuny wrote:
> > >
> > > > look at the actual content of the proposal and examine the claims of
> > its
> > > > critics, rather than simply replaying the ideological construct that
> > > > demands unquestioning opposition to anything labeled "industrial
> > > organic."
> > >
> > >
> > > ​Pointing to the common history of all checkoff program​s created under
> > the
> > > Act, and their consequences in subsidizing big agriculture is not
> > > "replaying
> > > the ideological construct". I wish you would look at the history. It's
> > not
> > > rocket science; the patterns in USDA history stand out like sore
> thumbs.
> > > Isn't the assumption that this program under the same Act will suddenly
> > be
> > > different just more hopium?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> > > lfljvenaura@gmail.com
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> >
> > --
> > Kia ora Ehoa
> >
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> > *Steve Hart*
> > *Ecology Architect*
> > *Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
> > Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
> > and Systems Ecology.​*
> > Skype: tipenemanawa
> > Phone: +64 220 75 62 11
> >
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Kia ora Ehoa

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*Steve Hart*
*Ecology Architect*
*Designer, Teacher, Builder of Ecologically Sustainable Resilient
Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology.​*
Skype: tipenemanawa
Phone: +64 220 75 62 11

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