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[joao pedro goncalves <joaovox@gmail.com>]

Dear Robyn,

Yes, I believe, WE all (want to) value the marginal.

But, to do so, we need to look for it and know it exists, and its process.

Feedback is too precious, we should give and must ask for it.

I would suggest that each of us posts, at least, once every 6 months,

informing whether we are reading some or most of what is being posted here.

Bob:

do not understand your talk about

"destroying this conversation"

You mean, rigid rules? swiftly implemented or so?

Could we have both a list of behaviour that builds
and destroys this conversation ?

Lawrence:

"It is not for endless lurking, never posting or replying."

this reminds us that this is a permaculture list,
a feedback driven proccess.

We know that no-replying is feedback too,
and that is why we see Laurence call for a show of hands.

Thank you for your good work and show of hands.

João

Sun and wind in Lisboa, Portugal






On 11/10/16, Robyn Francis <robyn@permaculture.com.au> wrote:
> I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment Bob.  IMO the only people that
> need to be turfed off the list should be spammers and we don’t seem to
> suffer from those. This process is filling up my inbox in a most annoying
> way — it takes time to delete all these messages. Have faith that if people
> don’t unsubscribe or request to leave the list they’re happy to participate
> and readers are valuable. Value the marginal, and that includes the
> ‘lurkers’
> Robyn
>
>> On 9 Nov 2016, at 3:50 pm, Bob Waldrop <bob@bobwaldrop.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think that you are on the verge of destroying this conversation.
>> Listeners are as important as talkers. It doesn't seem to me that anything
>> is broken about this conversation.  So I'm not sure what you are trying to
>> fix.  Given the situation in the world right now, to destroy a
>> conversation such as this would be a crime against a better future.
>>
>> Bob Waldrop, Oklahoma City
>>
>> On 11/8/2016 10:12 PM, Lawrence London wrote:
>>> This list was created to provide a place for exchange of ideas, news,
>>> resources and Q&A.
>>> It is not for endless lurking, never posting or replying.
>>>
>>> I need a show of hands from subscribers who want to remain in the list.
>>> Post a reply to this message saying that you want to stay onboard and I
>>> will add your email ID to those who will remain subscribed.
>>> Those I have known here over the years and those who have posted in the
>>> past year or so will be automatically included,
>>>
>>> Other list owners I have known have done this and managed to keep their
>>> forums alive and active. I intend to do this here.
>>> The message archives and the list mirror will remain accessable and
>>> searchable by the public...
>>> One week ought to be enough time to get this sorted out.
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João Gonçalves
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Alcântara - Lisboa e Chão Sobral - Oliveira do Hospital - Serra do Açor -
Portugal

"Hoje, ao escolher o que comer e o que comprar está a decidir se os seus
filhos vão herdar um planeta em melhor ou pior estado daquele que você
encontrou."

"Today as you choose what to eat and what to buy you decide if your
children will inherit a planet in a better or worse shape than you found
it."

Para descobrir:
Documentário "Alface" na Aldeia das Amoreiras
http://vimeo.com/58999047
Herdade do Freixo do Meio
http://herdadedofreixodomeio.pt/
"Comida que nunca acaba" / Permacultura no Malawi
http://www.neverendingfood.org/
Centro de Ecologia Integral
http://www.integralecology.org
Nyumbani - Kenya
http://www.nyumbani.org/about-us