permaculture

[Alia Tsang <alia@dietrick.org>]

And don't forget about all the mushrooms you can grow in a basement....

Alia

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Linda Ray <lindaray@att.net> wrote:

> Edible landscaping...
>
> Namaste,
>
> Linda
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>
> --- On Wed, 7/4/12, Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] The US is no longer food self-reliant?
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 5:32 PM
>
>
> It's a good idea. What other ideas exist here to boost local food
> production in urban areas? What have others seen be most successful in that
> regard?  I'm doing a report on this for my city, and I would love to
> include successful permie projects that have gotten good urban ag projects
> going, or gotten lots of gardens started, etc.
>
> Best, Koreen
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Pilarski <friendsofthetrees@yahoo.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] The US is no longer food self-reliant?
>
> Several years ago I read a news report that the US had just changed from
> being a net exporter of agricultural products to a net importer.  We now
> import more value of ag imports than value of ag exports.
>
> Now bearing in mind that currencies are manipulated and that the
> currencies of exporting countries in Africa, South America, etc are kept
> low in comparison to dollars and euros, that the situation is probably
> worse than officially stated.
>
> Bearing in mind that in the event of a dollar collapse there would be a
> lot less oil, food and other imports coming into the US.
>
> Bearing in mind that when the Soviet Union collapsed that their industrial
> food production dropped 80% and that home gardens had to pick up the slack.
>
> We should have plans laid for what to do in such an eventuality.  Some
> years back I proposed that in such a crisis that all permaculturists should
> undertake train the trainers programs in their neighborhood to vastly
> increase local food production using local resources and permaculture (and
> regular gardening) techniques.
>
> Michael Pilarski
>
> --- On Wed, 7/4/12, Marjory <forestgarden@gvtc.com> wrote:
>
> From: Marjory <forestgarden@gvtc.com>
> Subject: [permaculture] The US is no longer food self-reliant?
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Wednesday, July 4, 2012, 10:40 AM
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I just had this grim realization.
>
> This blows up that 'Bread Basket To The World" story.
>
> With very few exceptions, every bite of every American meal comes from
> big Ag.  And big Ag just coulndn't produce without massive amounts of
> oil and natrual gas.
>
> >From Wikipedia, the US imports about 65% of the oil it uses.
>
> So could the US produce enough food to feed it's population without
> imported oil?  It doesn't look likely.
>
> I know each of us is all about change towards local sustainability, but
> as it stands /today/, the US is *not food self-reliant.*
>
> Is there some problem with the logic here?
>
> The US does export about 15%-20% of the biggest crop it produces -
> corn.  But we also import a lot of other food stuffs (fruits and
> vegetables)  The US is not really a big net exporter.
>
> Am I missing something here...
>
> Marjory
>
>
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