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[Killian O'Brien <admin@pri-de.org>]

I've encouraged we create a co-op here in Detroit to no avail. Several people 
doing permaculture at various levels, but all in competition.

I often wonder to myself how we are going to come to solutions when the 
people supposedly most likely to don't seem to have much interest in them.

A tad pessimistic these days.

Cheers,

Killian O'Brien
PRI-De
admin@pri-de.org
(313) 647-4015

killiankob@yahoo.com
(760) 617-4693

-----Original Message-----
From: permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org 
[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Bob Waldrop
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 10:37 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Tacoma PDC & Survey Results from Workforce Grant

I've often thought that PDC classes could invent themselves as worker-owned 
cooperatives to offer permaculture design services as a group.  My latest 
cooperative entrepreneur project is starting an incubator to help people 
start worker-owned cooperatives, and if there are any Okies on this list or 
folks have friends who are Okies, please pass on word of our fall tour -- A 
Better Way to Go to Work -- which is 9 evening participatory workshops in 
central Oklahoma, see http://www.okie.coop/2011falltourinvite.pdf for more 
details.

Bob Waldrop
Prairie Rose and Barking Frogs Permaculture
http://bobaganda.blogspot.com
http://www.barkingfrogspermaculture.org

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lawrence F. London, Jr.
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 1:50 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Tacoma PDC & Survey Results from Workforce Grant

On 9/3/2011 1:24 PM, kelda@riseup.net wrote:

> Out of that conversation though we had to come up with hard data about
> what job prospects there are to folks after a PDC. We couldn't find hard
> data, and tried at length to get info from the APTs happening in
> Australia. (What jobs do people get? What are the wages?) So we created a
> survey, which many of you took. THANK YOU!!

People should/could create their own jobs, becoming gainfully
self-employed. Create your communities and job opportunities will
become apparent. Keep money earned and goods bartered circulating within
them. Surplus can be exchanged with or sold to other communities.
There are enormous opportunities in producing goods and services to
market locally, moreso if you develop communities comprised of people
determined to buy local exclusively.
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