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[ChildrensPeaceGuild <childrenspeaceguild@yahoo.com>]

"...the writer will understand the concept if not the actuality of "shunning" 
and will eventually grow tired of the silence."

This is true, but not the only possibilty:

Many times I have witnessed "the writer" growing louder, offensive, or more 
obnoxious in a desperate attempt at getting attention among the silence.
or 
There will be one dissenter among the shunners (ironic isn't it?) who will 
try 
to win over (convert, talk sense, etc.) the writer which only serves to 
encourage them.

I'm not weighing in on either side of this debate, but just sharing my 
experience for what it's worth...




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From: seaseal <seaseal@got.net>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sun, December 19, 2010 7:52:26 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Permaculture list serve invitation [was] What is 
a 
commons? And how do we regulate it?

Dissent is what sharpens our thinking, allowing a new view, a new 
perspective. 
The desire to stifle dissent---as is going on with Wiki Leaks--is to me a 
dangerous symptom of autocratic control. Dissent is good.

The very benefit of these lists is the opportunity to read diverse ideas and 
views. When we disagree with a point of view, as adults we can challenge it 
or 
ignore it.

If a viewpoint is at great odds with the general trends of thinking in the 
group, no one will respond, and the writer will understand the concept if not 
the actuality of "shunning" and will eventually grow tired of the silence.

Cecile
seaseal@got.net

Vision without action is a daydream.

          Action without vision is a nightmare.

              --Japanese proverb




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Ones that I have experience with here in the Midwest;

Allium Family:
garlic (scapes)
chives
early bulb

Asparagus
Basswood leaves (delicious in salads)
Beets
Burdock (it's in sushi so you know it's good)

Cabbage Family:
mustard greens
brussels sprouts
rutabagas (mashed with butter, yum)
turnips
cabbage
collards
kale (my favorite overall cold hardy crop)
kohlrabi

Carrots
Chard
Dandelion
Jerusalem artichoke (can harvest up to frost, overwinter, and continue to
harvest at spring thaw)
Lambsquarters (so good, try slicing up young plants stem and all and
sauteing)
Leeks
Nettles (our favorite super delicious spring tonic! great in omelettes)
Parsley
Parsnip
Peas (harvest shoots for spring excitement)
Radish

Salad Greens:
arugula
chicory
sorrel
spinach
mache
purslane


Also consider sprouting beans and grains for some green goodness in these
cold winter months, as well as starting microgreens under a grow light in a
couple months. For microgreens I have a heating pad under the flat of seeds
as well to warm up the soil.

I feel like I'm forgetting some good plants.

Andrew French
LTD Farm