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  • From: trevor william johnson <john2116@msu.edu>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Detroit making history again
  • Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 19:13:21 -0600

I agree with everything you said. And there is a missing in most (maybe not yours) peoples idea of detroit. I have lived in a 1st ring suburb for 16 years and heard stories that tell of 45% of houses being burnt our unfixable. That was just a number to me until I started a job planting gardens for people in need. the areas they are talking about repurposing have houses that are so dilapidated that they cant be fixed. That statement comes from not only a economical standpoint but one of safety. The houses need more than putty and paint, They are burnt out, no studs, no wiring, no pluming...nothing but charcoal and maybe bits and pieces that can be salvaged with great risk to one self.

I would akin Detroit to a bad infection in an otherwise functional body. Preventative methods are no longer effective. Conventional medicine is required given we want the city to be dominated by regional economies and not regional gangs. The wise use of petrochemicals and human labor will create the city of our dreams...I am excited as well. Powerful grassroots movements are afoot for more than organic methodologies....permaculture has a strong hold....i am excited as well and i am a stand that Detroit know a future that blows the industrial revolution out of the water...makes it a fairy tale.

As for the cold...hoop house connected to your living quarters will alleviate the winter blues.

Trevor

On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Tripp Tibbetts wrote:

I'm good with the "nodal/internodal" aspect of living arrangements you refer to, but I'm also thinking about all the urban homeless that could be placed in abandoned homes and encouraged to grow resilient food forests around themselves, without the expense of demolition. The money supporting shelters and soup kitchens could be repurposed for city services (and permaculture instruction) to support this new group of now-productive citizens. When we start talking about paradigm shifting, I guess I want to see it go all the way. Maybe that's greedy of me, but boy do we desperately need new ways of thinking in the food department.

Is there support for organic cultural methodologies at least?

Either way, I'm awfully excited about Detroit. And if it weren't so damned cold I might even move there to join in the fun!

Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb


--- On Tue, 3/9/10, trevor william johnson <john2116@msu.edu> wrote:


From: trevor william johnson <john2116@msu.edu>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Detroit making history again
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 8:27 PM


I live near and work in detroit and have spoken with some city
officials regarding this plan. Their point of view is that it is too
expensive to offer mass city services like trash pickup and maintain
utilities for small clusters of houses that are spread out. Their
plan to repurpose the land to green space (many uses fall under this
category like agriculture, parks etc.)

I personally feel this is a good plan. Concentrate human settlements
and use the surrounding land to supply food and other ag. related
products to the city and surrounding areas. I would love others
perspectives and i will bring them to my contacts in the city.

Trevor
On Mar 9, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Tripp Tibbetts wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100308/ap_on_bi_ge/us_downsizing_detroit

This is a situation in desperate need of some permacultural
thought. Hundreds of millions of dollars of federal aid to raze
buildings and return the land to agricultural production? Sounds
kind of old school to me.

Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb




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