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  • From: Gasper Family Farm <farmer1@gasperfarm.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Independent Freeholds
  • Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:33:04 -0600

wiki is useful here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fee_simple

The term dates back to feudalism concepts; a state of affairs we are in
danger of seeing again.

Robert Waldrop wrote:
> Freehold is not a legal term, it is a traditional
> word used to refer to a property owned by an
> individual or family. "Freeholders" = "yeoman
> farmers" = Jefferson's ideal for the majority of
> the population. It is not a legal term, more of a
> cultural reference. Its roots are in England.
>
> Bob Waldrop, OKC
> www.barkingfrogspermaculture.org
> www.bobwaldrop.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Siegel" <todd.siegel@gmail.com>
> To: "permaculture"
> <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Independent Freeholds
>
>
>
>> Hi Brent,
>>
>> I don't know either, but you piqued my
>> interested so I did a little
>> googling.
>>
>> From
>> http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/freehold-land.html
>>
>> A freehold is "Real property held under fee
>> simple absolute in
>> possession."
>>
>> So from
>> http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/fee-simple-absolute-in-possession.html
>>
>> Fee simple means:
>>
>> "Highest form of legal estate in freehold land
>> denoting complete
>> ownership. 'fee simple' means ownership that
>> will not end with the
>> death of the present owner but will descend to
>> his or her heirs.
>> 'Absolute' means that owner's rights of
>> ownership are not limited by
>> any condition. And 'inpossession' signifies
>> immediacy of those rights.
>> Also called by its short form 'fee simple.'"
>>
>> Searches on "independent freehold" didn't turn
>> up anything useful,
>> sorry. I think he made that term up. :-)
>>
>> According to his website, JHK is not accepting
>> emails anymore or you
>> could have just asked him. Perhaps try the book
>> discussion forum on
>> KunstlerCast.com:
>> http://kunstlercast.com/forum/index.php?board=6.0
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Todd
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Brent McMillan
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Dear fellow Permies:
>>>
>>> Over the holiday break I read Kunstler's book,
>>> "The Long Emergency."
>>> In
>>> the seventh, and final chapter, 'Living in the
>>> Long Emergency' he
>>> states, "If the process of reorganizing
>>> agriculture in America were to
>>> work favorably--especially in the form of
>>> independent freeholds--it
>>> could have many benefits."
>>>
>>> Pardon my ignorance, but what is an
>>> 'independent freehold'?
>>>
>>> Where can I learn more about them? What are
>>> their strengths and
>>> weaknesses as an organizing structure?
>>>
>>> Sincerely:
>>>
>>> Brent McMillan, Steward of Wood Haven
>>> Avilla, Indiana, USA
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