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[John Fritz <johnfritz77@yahoo.com>]

I am guessing that the use of one tree to protect another from frost derives 
from the absorbing of the freezing vapor by the former.   Is that about 
correct?
   
  John Fritz, NW Arkansas.
   
   
  
 
  
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Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 10:46:08 -0700
From: Kim Swearingen 
Subject: Re: [permaculture] nitrogen-fixing trees in temperate climes
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I, too, love the black locust. Not only does it increase the vigor 
and growth of its neighbors but as an added bonus for me it turns out 
to be my goats' favorite food. To have something so willing to sucker 
and grow profusely on so little water has been a real blessing. A 
note about planting it to protect fruit trees from frost; it is one of 
the very last trees to leaf out - much later than my fruit trees. On 
that count it has been a bust. I'm in a really tough climate for 
fruit due to late spring frosts (average last frost date is May 15) 
and have so far found the best strategy to be carefully choosing late 
blooming varieties of fruit. Worth noting is that mulberry leaf out 
late as well, around the same time as my black locust and therefore 
produces a yield every year, as do berries and shrub fruit. Goats 
also adore mulberry branches!

Kim
Permaculture The Earth
www.permaearth.org


       
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Last year Paolo Solari, one of the founders of Gaviotas, asked that people
not travel to Gaviotas as it was too disruptive in the present political
climate.

I would certainly write them before arriving unannounced - we had this
discussion some months ago about uninvited guests and the stress it puts on
communities and projects that are not set up for visitors.  In our case we
have two days a year of open house the rest of the time we discourage
visits.

Scott Pittman
Director
Permaculture Institute
www.permaculture.org


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It would be useful if you were more specific on the information you want.

Did you read the book?

I did, and that's all I know about it. The impression I got is that it 
is not so much a community that makes its own decisions but a group 
trying to implement technical ideas of some bright, well meaning 
academics. I liked what I read but but I would guess that it has 
definite limitations.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


Catarina Silveira wrote:
> Dear all.
>  
>  I will be flying to Colombia for a month vacation and was wondering if
any of you have info on Las gaviotas project...
>  
>  
>  all the best
>  
>  Catarina
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