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  • From: Dieter Brand <diebrand@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Tibet Update: Boycott the Olympics, Boycott Chinese Exports, the Hell With Russia For Supporting China, Boycott Them Too.
  • Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:40:41 -0700 (PDT)

I appreciate your fervour; however for the sake of credibility it is
preferred to stick to the facts and avoid exaggeration.

I started studying the Chinese language and Chinese culture almost 40 years
ago. I have also had close contacts to Chinese corporations and state
agencies during more than a decade I worked in trade and industry in the Far
East.

China has only become an exporting power in the last 10 years following
Deng Xiaoping’s modernisation and China’s admission to the WTO.

Most of Chinese exports are still controlled by large state corporations
such as CITIC. These corporations are either owned by the various agencies of
State or by the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA). In fact, the PLA is
the biggest employer in China, owning anything from factories to construction
companies, hotels and restaurants. Many of these corporations are run by the
so-called “Princlings”, the pampered children of high-ranking communist party
cadres who form a corrupt old-boys network that controls much of China’s
economy.

Moreover, I think it is a fact that most of China’s exports are extremely
cheap and very low quality. Last week I bought a Chinese-made light bulb for
2 Euros (the equivalent light bulb from a European manufacturer costs over 8
Euros). The Chinese light bulb didn’t last for more than 24 hours. A similar
European light bulb has already lasted 7 years and is still working. Before
that I bought a Chinese-made shovel, the shovel bent the first time it came
into contact with soil. I could give you numerous examples like this. Anyway,
I decided that, boycott or not, I don’t have enough money to waste on
products that go straight to the junk heap and that are not exactly the
hallmark of sustainability either.

Dieter Brand
Portugal


"Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@intrex.net> wrote:
Margaret & Steven Eisenhauer wrote:
> Oh dear,
> The "master" wishes you to just buy more stuff from the communist Chinese
> government. They need the money to buy the weapons for their military so
> they can expand their brand of "World domination". The communists believe
> that you will love them and all they do for you, like charm bracelets made
> of lead to sell to your children at the dollar stores and tooth paste
> containing anti freeze. And remember the finest people (investors) who
> believe that all that glitters is gold are making a killing on selling you
> China's bad dream come true. Forget about a local economy based on respect
> and sustainability - that's for people who don't want to help the less
> fortunate - which by the way is what we are all becoming by buying into the
> lies and deception put forth by those who brought us this particular flavor
> of old style aristocratic bull-tinky.

The Chinese have been at this for thousands of years, supplier of good for a
world market. Really.
They are the ultimate con men. We need a new age social alchemy: convert
fools into believers
in self sufficiency and personal independence. Tune in, eat well, exercise
and stay healthy,
and drop out of the ratrace if necessary.

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Hello all,


You may be interested to have a look at the new website that I have
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<http://www.permacultureprinciples.com/>http://www.permacultureprinciples.com/


It is on-line and functioning as of today. I will be launching it at
the Australian Permaculture Convergence in Sydney on the Friday
afternoon, 21st of March.


The aim of the site is to help people understand the foundations of
permaculture, and how the principles can be applied to everyday
life. Through the photolog on the site I am giving permaculture
designers and practitioners at all levels the opportunity to share
their photos and stories, and to showcase their projects.


The photolog will evolve as submissions come in. Some friends and I
have put a few photos with stories onto the photolog to get it started.


High quality photos can also be submitted for the 2009 Permaculture
Calendar, which is hosted on the site.


Your photos and your feedback are welcome.


Please forward this link to your networks as appropriate.


Regards,


Richard Telford,
Australia






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