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  • From: Charles de Matas <cdematas@hotmail.com>
  • To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [permaculture] what is "politics" exactly...?/
  • Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:40:20 +0000


I'd like to second Scott Pitman's comment on Ivan Illych. I think his sharp
criticisms of industrial societies are even more valid today. I don't yet
have the aversion to the work of Lovins etc. that Scott has, I think their
work is valuable and interesting, but I would agree with him that more
fundamental changes are necessary in our economic and social sytems. Thanks
for the interesting comments, Scott.

Charles
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