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  • From: Steve Hoog <livingpotentials@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] OT: BBC NEWS | Health | 'Friendly bacteria' gumforteeth]
  • Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 06:12:43 -0700 (PDT)

Lawrence----I've been studying macrobiotics and chinese medecine since the
70'sand am a macro counselor. We've used different rules for what to eat,
what order to eat
in a meal, and how often one eats a particular food. In regular macrobiotic
education the food combining that you mention is rarely mentioned but i am
aware of the theory and find that macrobiotic eating is in alignment with
much of it. Digestion is complex and can be different for a variety of people
because there are a lot of imbalances.
Macrobiotic theory suggests eating miso soup at the beginning of a
meal[at least once a day] to provide those beneficial digestive enzymes
especially for grains and beans and eating slightly salty pickles at the end
of the meal for more enzymes for vegetable digestion.Non salted cultured
vegetables would also work as would an occassional fermented dairy.The order
of eating goes from eating contracting foods first then more expansive foods
until dessert which is most expansive.This allows the stomach to expand
naturally after not eating for awhile. This could go either soup-grain-bean
dish[or fish]---grain-well cooked root veggies--grain--litely cooked leafy
greens--grain---dessert......or it could go
soup--grain--beans--grain--roots---grain -
leaves--grain-beans-grain--roots--grain--leaves etc until finished then
dessert....This isnt a hard and fast rule but seems to work for most
people.When you really go off your body lets you know.
If you eat a variety of vegetables it is rarely a concern about eating
too many starches in one meal but its a good thing to be aware of.. Generally
combining concentrated proteins doesnt happen. I generally teach to eat one
bean at a meal but occassionally a three bean salad works and its ok...nuts
and seeds are not emphasized so sprinkling a few into the dishes doesnt seem
to affect digestion. When fish is eaten it is usually not a lot but the
grain portion is usually reduced and nonstarchy vegetables are
increased...also eating sweets with grain is a bit difficult on the digestion
because the sugar inhibits the enzyme ptyalin in the mouth and the grain may
not get broken down properly unless you chew alot.Baked
flour/grain,sugar,fruit desserts dont make up a big part of the way of
eating so eating it once in a while doesnt cause too much of a problem.
Its interesting to note that if you see how th stomach digests food you
could come up with a different way of eating. The stomach primarily digests
protein which can take some time. It allows carbs to go thru fairly quickly.
When we eat oils and fats they are hardest to digest by the bile in the small
intestine. If we eat oils first that can keep the carbs and protein held in
the stomach longer than they need to be and we would feel bloated. So one
way to eat would be to eat all your carbs and veggies first ,then proteins,
then oils and fats ..or at least come close to that like eating sauteed or
fried dishes at the end.Just another thing to play around with and see what
works.
Now if someone has parasites,candida, leaky gut syndrome, or other
digestive imbalances you would have to get very specific as to what foods to
eat and when. i use muscle testing a lot determine that.
In oriental medecine raw foods are considered to have cold energy and
not beneficial for digestion at least in the long term despite the fact that
they have added enzymes.You dont usually see salads in a chinese restaurant
and in macrobiotic cooking we emphasize pressed salads[pressure and salts
contract and start the breakdown process]. Warming herbs like ginger and
cumin are used to activate the pancreatic enzymes and ensure proper
breakdown.
Anyway i've used these principles for many years with lots of people
and have been pretty successful with them. ------steve hoog

"Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net> wrote:
Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:

> Food combining for maximum digestion, maximum nutrition and maximum
> health involves creating meals wherein certain foods and food groups are
> matched according to how well they can be
> digested when combined.
> Foods that are acid, starchy, neutral (maybe alkaline?) foods such as
> non-starchy vegetables,
> subacid, sweet, oily and protein may be eaten together when combined
> according to certain rules. There are charts and a
> few books that define acceptable combinations. A meal must be completely
> digested before another can be eaten.

A few corrections and additions.

> Certain foods must be eaten alone, melons for example. Sweet foods (fruits)
> alone may be combined and eaten alone. Any single
> element in the protein group may be consumed but not combined with any
> other protein, i.e. one bean type, one seed
> type, one nut type. Oily protein may be combined with acid foods and non
> starchy vegetables. Starchy foods may be
> combined with non acid vegetables but not with oily protein, i.e. no starch
> with oily protein or acid foods.
> Sub-acid foods like tomatoes and peaches may be combined with neutral
> vegetables and not with oily protein or starch or acid foods.

Anyone familiar with this method of food combining and raw foods diets in
general?



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