permaculture

["J. Kolenovsky" <garden@hal-pc.org>]

Your last line in your posted comment struck me into pontificating these
reply. As being a permaculturist, I think you and I would understand
this. When the force of Peak Oil hits and starts to sustain itself for
along while, the food supply will be hampered. Food that is produced
hundreds and thousands away will cease to be on shelves. There simply
would not be any fuel to transport  food cheaply if at all.  Mass
produced food would decrease because of the petro products in
fertilizer. Shrinking the supply of food will result in billions of
death in 3rd countries. It's not that there won't be any oil, but that
what oil remains will be extraordinarily expensive to produce, refine
and distribute. Folks say ethanol is an answer. We will need all that
corn to live and survive. Not to use as fuel for energy. I feel that
people living during the Post-Carbon Age will be shooting deer and using
the forest as fuel ( to an imaginative extent).  Gee, can energy be made
from strawberries and grapes? Hope not. I like them.

J. Kolenovsky



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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:13:53 -0600
From: "Paul A Cross" <charybda@newmex.com>
Subject: [permaculture] deer fencing
To: <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Learn about Peak Oil changing your lifestyle:
 

Ten years ago I bought an old horse ranch in the southern rocky
mountains. The prior owners had put out alfalfa hay for the deer because
they liked having the deer around. They grew hardly any food, but had
flower gardens. The deer pressure was intense.

They had a useless 3-strand 4' high (1.2 metre) electrified fence for
the flower garden. The deer would crouch down and jump between the
strands, or when startled, would jump over it.

In 1997 I put up the 7' (2.1 metre) high plastic deer fence. It was
supposed to last 10 years. Here in the US southwest at altitude, with
very high solar exposure, it's beginning to break down. In a semi arid
climate I don't find this fencing very "invisible." Maybe in an lush
environment it would be less visible. Anyway, there's no plastic
recycling in my area, so all that plastic is soon to get landfilled.
While I found a fence of this height effective, had it been made of some
sort of galvanzied metal I would probably not be looking at replacing it
this summer.

As for eating them, I could probably feed my whole village with the deer
that come through here. I think I'll save the deer for later if or when
there's no food at the grocery store.

-Paul


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