permaculture

[akiva w <kevinakiva@yahoo.com>]

hi Orava Ituparta-
thank you for your very interesting post. 
i haven't used the fresh green juice as you described,
though now i'm interested in trying. it seems like a
very insightful approach, including the burning of the
spent/squeezed fibres for fuel.

lately i've been making a lot of weed tea with fresh
rainwater, and bottling it in one and a half litre
bottles and other containers for sale and later use. i
believe the fermentation process helps enhance the the
mix, and there's no energy used to squeeze it. i also
add fresh human urine for an extra boost of nutrients
and personal connection with the process.

however, i imagine your method is particularly
beneficial  in various situations. thanks again, also
for your cool name.

and now i'm finnished.

shalom!
akiva werbalowsky
jerusalem


----Orava Ituparta wrote:----
> Subject:  Fresh green juice fertilization ?

> Hello from Finland,
> 
>   I'm wondering (because have not found info on this
> issue) if there are
>   permaculturalists experienced in using freshly
> squeezed green juice from
>   wild rush, grasses and other plants as a
> fertilizer for growing other stuff?
> 
>   Last year I did grow pumpkins with this (diluted
> into water) and drunk also 
>   3 dl:s raw each day during the last summer. I got
> more tasty and better fruits
>   from these than from a control ones which had
> horse manure compost. Also
>   seedling that was sick from mosaic virus got
> perfectly healed after having
>   "a fresh green drink" and gave perfect fruits in
> the autumn.
>   
>   Why I didn't use just ordinary mulch beds? Well,
> because we're located
>   in a northern climate where the air moisture and
> warmth conditions are not
>   allways so good for proper composting of mulch,
> resulting often a huge
>   loss in nitrogen and it also releases methane into
> atmosphere. Just before
>   I thought to go into biogas-reactors, there came
> an idea to squeeze the
>   juice, dilute it and cover with fibrous mulch...
> So before I set up more 
>   scientific research on this way of growing, it
> would be great to find out 
>   if such already exist? Does someone have a huge
> juicer developed for this? 
>   This also saves space, as the fertilizing effect
> seems to be better than
>   if using just mulch. In tropics there might be no
> benefit of this, except 
>   a refreshing vital drink for the gardener, but in
> the boreal it's different
>   
>   . . . I also tried burning the fibre squeezed
> manually into "pellets" and
>   dried. It seems to burn with clear smoke,
> surprisingly long time and 
>   good heat. For heating it could be good idea to
> mix it with sawdust, 
>   phalaris arundinacea, sunflower and buckwheat seed
> covers ... as a mulch
>   I thought to mix it with forest litter and
> dendrite from the lake.
>   
>   Any experiences or thoughts about this ?
>   
> thanks,
> 
> Orava Ituparta


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