permaculture

["Kelly Lockamy" <garden_muse@bellsouth.net>]

As long as we're on the subject...
I have a veterinarian friend who recently expressed his interest in
composting the many pounds of dog "manure" he "harvests" daily.  I read the
letter below in dismay as the holding tank idea was put to rest.  Any
suggestions??  Maybe the same way one would handle humanure?

Many thanks,
Kelly

----- Original Message -----
From: "Claude William Genest" <genest@pivot.net>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] RE: permaculture Digest, Vol 15, Issue 31


> There's not much that is either sustainable or appropriate about
> putting pig manure in holding tanks.... Especially if the aim is to
> liquiefy it ( which radically alters its nitrogen, creating a soil
> destroyer instead of a soil builder,  and of course greatly ups the
> stink factor....)
> Best bet is portable electric fence to pasture the pigs. If you must
> keep them confined,
> I would have the pigs shit into as much mulch as possible ( dried
> organic material even paper)....
>
> Look up "pigaerator" ( do a google for Joel Salatin)....Also "hoop
> houses".....
>
> Claude
>
>
> On Thursday, July 29, 2004, at 11:56 AM, Cochran, Jason wrote:
>
> > Hello out there-
> > I am working with sustainable agriculture in Panama and am looking for
> > information on building simple holding tanks for pig manure:  How
> > should one
> > go about doing this?  What materials are needed?  What are the
> > logistics?
> > Is it possible to use this manure on crops?  etc.  We are working with
> > small
> > farmers that have up to 8 pigs on limited space, so the more appropiate
> > technological ideas there are the better.
> >
> > Thanks!
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> >    1. Intensive Permaculture Design Workshop in Southern Spain
> >       (Antonio Scotti)
> >    2. Re: Lizard Control (Don)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:58:50 +0200
> > From: "Antonio Scotti" <antonio.scotti@tiscali.es>
> > Subject: [permaculture] Intensive Permaculture Design Workshop in
> > Southern Spain
> > To: "Antonio Scotti" <antonio.scotti@tiscali.es>
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> > Dear Friends,
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> > I am very happy to announce to you the rare opportunity to pursue very
> > high
> > level training in permaculture design
> > This workshop will be led by one of the most experienced permaculture
> > designers around, Dan Hemenway, from
> > Elfin Permaculture, Florida (USA).
> > http://barkingfrogspc.tripod.com/frames.html
> > More information about how the workshop itself is organized in the
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> > The dates of the workshop are July 26th to August 8th 2004 (14-day
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 18:09:52 -0700
> > From: "Don" <ujgs@4dirs.com>
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Lizard Control
> > To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> > Just put a net around your tomato's and loquat, as needed.
> > Don
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
> > To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 11:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] Lizard Control
> >
> >
> >> David Orgain wrote:
> >>> I have an abundance of small lizards who eat many of my cherry
> >>> tomatos
> > and loquats when they are bearing. Are there any easy controls for this
> > pest?
> >> What kind of lizards? skinks? enoles? Skinks can get big and will eat
> > enoles.
> >> How about guinea hens, geese or black snakes?
> >> Maybe your cats have a taste for lizards.
> >> --
> >> L.F.London
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> >> http://market-farming.com
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