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- From: "Graham Burnett" <grahamburnett@blueyonder.co.uk>
- To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams
- Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:23:50 -0000
The random assembly method is , as I understand it, just that,
representations of the elements (eg, chickens, compost heap, house, pond,
apple tree,veggie bed, etc) are all laid out, perhaps on pieces of card,
then put together completely at random. The idea being to break out of
traditional 'linear' patterns of thinking and throw up new creative ideas.
Many are of course daft ideas, ie, 'put your compost heap in the pond', but
sometimes ideas that might otherwise not have been thought of get thrown up,
eg, 'put your chickens in the pond'- looks silly at first, but, hey, if you
have fox predation problems, why not float the chicken house on a raft??? Or
'put your compost heap in the house'- again, looks silly, but might just
give somebody the idea of putting a worm bin for food scraps in the
kitchen...
I think permaculture designers should always consider using a combination of
design methodologies to mix up left and right brain thinking- random
assemblies strikes me as a 'right brain' tool (very intuitive, creative),
wheras the 'bubble diagram' thing seems more like a 'left brain' thing
(ordered and logical)...
Cheers Graham
----- Original Message -----
From: "Antonio Scotti" <antonio.scotti@tiscali.es>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams
> Ciao Kelly,
> ok, but then what is the difference with the Random Assemblies method?
just
> the bubbles/circles?
> Ciao
> Antonio
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kelly Finigan <kfinigan@spots.ca>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 7:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams
>
>
> > Antonio:
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 00:14:43 +0100, Antonio Scotti wrote
> > > Hi,
> > > I found a reference to a design method named as "bubble diagrams",
> > > does anybody know what is stands for? Any examples on how to use it?
> > > Cheers
> >
> > "bubble diagrams" are often used when trying out / laying out different
> > possible locations or relationships between design elements. Architects
> and
> > some engineers use these a lot...so do "systems" thinkers. Each
"element"
> (a
> > room in a building, a farm compenent, an industrial process) is "placed"
> in
> > a circle or "bubble". The bubbles are then arranged in different
> > configurations to let the designer see the overall relationships and
flows
> > possible. Most often the bubbles are drawn on paper, but one could in
> theory
> > make 3-D bubbles of proportionate volume to get a more complete
conceptual
> > layout.
> >
> > Bubble diagrams let you see a bunch of different options quite quickly
> (and
> > cheaply), provided you can imagine the bubbles as the elements they
> actually
> > represent.
> >
> > This technique is good for house, yard, farm, city, indusrial site
layout
> > (probably other uses too..).
> >
> > ciao,
> > Kelly
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Antonio Scotti
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[permaculture] Bubble diagrams,
Antonio Scotti, 02/09/2004
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Re: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams,
Kelly Finigan, 02/10/2004
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RE: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams,
Antonio Scotti, 02/13/2004
- Re: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams, Graham Burnett, 02/13/2004
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RE: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams,
Antonio Scotti, 02/13/2004
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Re: [permaculture] Bubble diagrams,
Kelly Finigan, 02/10/2004
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