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  • From: "sal" <sals@rain.org>
  • To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
  • Subject: RE: Out of Control
  • Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 07:34:35 -0800


Do u have them on a home page? I like also. When the fig tree puts
forth is leaves u know summer is coming. Make hay while the sun shines.
For every thing there is a season.
Red skies in the morning sailors take warning pink skies at night
sailors delete.
-----Original Message-----
From: permed@nor.com.au [mailto:permed@nor.com.au]
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 3:42 AM
To: permaculture
Subject: Re: Out of Control


>Mollison talks about patterning in oral
>traditions, about the *summaries* of knowledge
>woven into myth and song and art--forms easy to
>remember for their rhythm and rhyme and general
>fractal self-similarity.

This is a perennial passion of mine ....
So many gems of wisdom and knowledge are encapsulated in short rhymes or

sayings. I've been collecting these over the years and always interested

in collecting more... that's an open invitation for contributions folks.

Not only the ancient and traditional, but ones you may have invented to
support permaculture learning and survival in today's world.
I feel it is important to keep these legacies of the past not just as
history or cultural curios, but to integrate them into our teaching and
daily communication and practice - most of the sayings & rhymes I've
collected are timeless and still relevent.
Many are what Bill calls 'phenomonological information' about weather
and
seasonal indicators: e.g.
"When the peaches flower there's perch in the creek"
"Mist in the hollow, horses a'collar. Mist on the hill, horses stand
still."
(Low lying mist indicates clear fine weather, high mist there's a good
chance of rain - so don't bother harnessing up the horses to go out into

the fields to work!) I find this rhyme incredibly usefull for planning
my
day especially if the weather's an important factor, like whether I'll
risk doing the markets or not.
I'm also interested in the information contained in nursery rhymes.
'Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater' is a food storage song (can you guess what
Peter is?),
'Jack & Jill' has several lessons, the first verse about water and a
caution against haste, the second verse is a first aid remedy. Robyn F


Djanbung Gardens Permaculture Education Centre
home to:
Permaculture Education
ERDA Institute Trust
Nimbin Eco-Village Project Office
Robyn Francis - permaculture designer & educator
PO Box 379, Nimbin NSW 2480 Australia
Ph 02-6689 1755 Fax 02-6689 1225
permed@nor.com.au www.earthwise.org.au


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