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- From: "keller" <ak.and.ak@on-line.de>
- To: "permaculture" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: pc in Kabul
- Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 21:04:02 +0200
Hi,
I remember that not so recently thee was an article in Permaculture Magazine
about a refugee camp in Mazedonia being turnd into a permaculture project (I
dont have it at hand now, which issue was that?). Could this approach be
used in a rfuge camp or camps in Pakistan. Theses people should be contacted
and asked about their experiences and lessons learnt.
Starting pc in refugee camps could contribute to feeding a few people inside
the camps (by their own activity instead of passiv waiting for the next
supply) and at the same time teach some of them pc.
Advantage: the pc-people who finally go into Afghanistan would be
Afghanians, capable of the languages and cultures of their areas, and they
would be muslims, not westerners.
By the way, one more thing comming to my mind: Afghanistan used to be a
carpet producing area. Of course, food production has priority, but later,
this could be important. A few months ago I have seen a TV report about a
project in Turkey where somebody reintroduced natural plant dies for carpet
wool. People in some villages started to produce these natural dies again
and grow the plants needed for it. They formed a cooperative for carpet
production and direct marketing. I don't remember the name of the project or
any details, but it should be possible to locate them on the internet.
Carpet production could become an income producing activity for the people
there. At the moment, most of the profits seem to go to sweat shop owners in
Pakistan and traders, so the people making the carpets get little money.
Regards
Andreas Keller
----- Original Message -----
From: Nick Routledge <fellowservant@yahoo.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 8:30 PM
Subject: pc in Kabul
> Have been mulling over the pc in Afghanistan topic since the first posting
> and I've been talking things over with some permie friend, and consensus
> seems to be that Afghanistan is ripe for permaculture. Women seem
> especially supportive of the idea.
>
> So, I'm gonna try and get resources/a team into Kabul. I've begun
> collecting seed, but could do with more in the way of details about both
> seed needs/climate and suchlike. I'm just about to take off on a
> seedswapping expedition through the southern states (timetable at:
> www.calsnet.net/pilgrimage) so if you wanna get together en route to pass
> along tidbits of seed/counsel or whatever, please look me up.
>
> I'm somewhat networked in that part of Asia, and I'm working an angle or
> two. Could always do with more in the way of support, though. Do we know
> of any permies in that part of the world who may have counsel to share? Or
> in any other bioregions with not dissimilar ecologies?
>
> Plant peace,
>
> n.
> www.foodnotlawns.com
>
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pc in Kabul,
Nick Routledge, 10/13/2001
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: pc in Kabul, Graham Burnett, 10/13/2001
- Re: pc in Kabul, georg parlow, 10/13/2001
- RE: pc in Kabul, Jo Tenner, 10/14/2001
- Re: pc in Kabul, John Cropper, 10/14/2001
- Re: pc in Kabul, Sharon Gordon, 10/14/2001
- Re: pc in Kabul, J Kolenovsky, 10/14/2001
- Re: pc in Kabul, J Kolenovsky, 10/14/2001
- Re: pc in Kabul, keller, 10/14/2001
- Re: pc in Kabul, keller, 10/14/2001
- pc in kabul, Nick Routledge, 10/21/2001
- pc in kabul, Nick Routledge, 10/29/2001
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