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["Naomi & Rick Coleman" <peds@tpg.com.au>]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Naomi & Rick Coleman" <peds@tpg.com.au>
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2001 18:24
Subject: Re: This is all starting to scare me


> Dear Darren,
>
> We'd love to show you the brighter future!!
>
> Come and visit our little spot of paradise, low budget, high productivity
> potential, great lifestyle with thriving young family and well known pc
> teachers, and although not on the west side of Melbourne, we are only 2
> hours away, and I promise you'll find it worthwhile. And to brighten up
your
> day, I'll even offer you a free tour (we usually charge)
>
> Don't give up, all social movements are subject to politics, and hopefully
> we will all grow from the discussions .
>
> TO OTHERS READING THIS, PLEASE LETS DEAL WITH ISSUES NOT PERSONALITIES. I
> TOO HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE NATURE OF SOME OF THE CORRESPONDANCES WHICH IS
> WHY I'VE STAYED OUT OF IT TILL NOW.
>
> Email me off list or call on 03 5664 3301 to arrange a tour if you are
> interested.
> Naomi Coleman
> Southern Cross Permaculture Institute
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "darren simo" <wannafarm@hotmail.com>
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, 25 July 2001 6:11
> Subject: This is all starting to scare me
>
>
> > I have always dreamed of onwing my own farm, nothing huge just a little
> > place where my family and I can get away from the ratrace. Our own
little
> > piece of paradice.
> > I'm just new to the whole idea of Permaculture, but have been gardening
> > organically ever since i was knee-high to a grasshoper. My father taught
> me
> > how to, back then it was not anything special, it was the way he had
been
> > taught. We did not call it "organic", it was just the way we done it. It
> was
> > smarter and cheaper to use compost, manure& mulches rather than buy
> > fertaliser.
> > Later I learned about agroforestry and reforestation. These things make
> > sence to anyone who loves the land.
> > Finally I found a book called Permaculture Two in the gardening section
of
> > my local libary. It was amazing this book not only tied together all of
> the
> > things that I had learned, but also things i had not even thought of
like
> > water management. Not only this but it was also designed to be as labor
> > saving and cost efficent as possible.
> > Then reality sinks in when I started looking all this up on the net. All
> the
> > courses to learn how to design a system are full-time, hard to do when
you
> > have work to save for your dream and support your family. Not only that
> but
> > there are bugger all courses on offer in the western suburbs of
melbourne,
> > even David Holmgren who lives just around the corner no longer has the
> base
> > level course.Then the worst blow of all I join a mailing list to learn
> from
> > the advise of experts and I find it full of political infighting and
just
> > plain nastiness on both sides.
> > I think the way things are going, I may give up the idea of a
> "PERMACULTURE"
> > farm and just muddle out how to build paradise by myself.
> > Please tell me is there a brighter future to all this.
> >
> >                    Darren
> >
> >
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