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["Marsha Hanzi" <hanzibra@svn.com.br>]

Rick-- I'm looking for an experimental college for my daughter, Karin--
what did you think of yours?  You can  send me a private e-mail at
hanzibra@svn.com.br...

Thanks

Marsha


----- Original Message -----
From: rick valley <bamboogrove@cmug.com>
To: permaculture <permaculture@franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 5:33 PM
Subject: E-correspondence PDC's


> >The PDC course is a distance learning course via Australia.  I never
seemed
> >to be able to get enough time away to take a course in person, so I am
going
> >with this.
> Has anyone out there done both a residential, traditional PDC and an
> E-course? And if so what  do they have to say in comparison?
> I know there are very respected teachers out there doing both...
> Being a trained (!!!) educator ("I have a Masters Degree" (if you've heard
> Dr. Science)) and teaching residential courses- I like the format & agree
> with David Holmgren (like me a grad of an experimental college) that the
> residential aspect is a major advantage. "Getting away" is part of the
> process producing the desired effect.
> I heard a management consultant on NPR who was saying he typically has
> corporate clients that were communicating and successful when the group
was
> under one roof. As soon as communication went online between unmeeting
> individuals, dysfunction commenced and grew.
> (I think the typical list flame war is an aspect of this phenomena too)
> How many times have I had PDC evaluations mention how much was learned out
of
> class time and/or from other participants!
> Not to mention weekend courses, which I have taught, and also have grave
> reservations about as well.
> I think that correspondence courses do have useful educational functions-
> similar to weekend courses, evening classes and such. I'd also say most of
> what a residential PDC has to offer can also be found in a week-long  or
> longer hands-on residential course or the sort of course that Marsha Hanzi
> talks about presenting, somewhat shorter than the traditional course, with
> much more hands-on. I have not had any experience with the shorter
> residential "fundamentals" courses some give, but I'd guess they are
likewise
> effective in fostering these effects which I'd say include "community"
> feeling, learning to appreciate other learning styles, (in yourself and
> others)
> I am well aware of opinions about access, affordability & so on. The flip
> side of that coin is often commitment. We're talking about whole systems-
for
> me it works best in a holistic learning environment.
> What do people out there think?
> -Rick
>
>
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