permaculture

["Michael Miller & Ute Bohnsack" <burrenag@iol.ie>]

Hi Arina,
I guess it all comes down to site condition. My brother-in-law has planted
some in a loamy soil in northern Germany and they sucker profusely. As for
here (Ireland / brown earth) I'll have to see and wait as they were only
planted this spring. I also took some ripe berries around Christmas 96 from
Germany and managed to grow some plants. I hope there'll be a male amongst
them. You are right, of course, about giving away surplus plants. There's
not much of a garden culture in this neck of the woods and most people here
have never seen sea buckthorn but I guess I could convince some folks of
the plants value. 
Another anecdote: In the post WWII years sea buckthorn was protected by law
in Germany as it was pretty much the only source of Vitamin C left in the
country (apart from apples)!

Ute

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| From: Scott Pittman <pci@permaculture-inst.org>
| To: permaculture@listserv.oit.unc.edu; permaculture@listserv.oit.unc.edu
| Subject: Re: hedgerow plants
| Date: 31 May 1998 04:23
| 
| At 02:22 PM 5/28/98 +0100, Michael Miller & Ute Bohnsack wrote:
| >Hi!
| >Sorry to contradict you but in my experience Hippophae - under the right
| >conditions - is quite invasive as it suckers. It's a classic pioneer of
| >sandy coastal habitats in Europe. I haven't seen it being spread by
birds
| >(seeds) outside its natural habitat, though. Personally I love it and
have
| >planted a few and hope they *will* invade my place because of their
beauty
| >and invaluable properties. If there's too much I can always cut it back
or
| >dig it up.
| >
| >Ute
| 
| Don't want to argue, but I have not seen a single sucker for 16 years in
| none of seabuckthorn orchards in my homecountry (but it is not sandy nor
| coastal). I read about root suckers as one of the propagation techniks
for
| sea berry. So far we were able to find only three nurseries in USA which
| carry seabuckthorn in very limited numbers and varieties. So at some
point
| even if in your particular enviroment it will tend to spread by suckers
you
| can always pot it, so more people can enjoy this nice plant.
| 
| Arina
| Scott & Arina Pittman
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