permaculture

["Michael Miller & Ute Bohnsack" <burrenag@iol.ie>]

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> From: Rene and Lorraine van Raders <rvraders@tpgi.com.au>
> To: pc discussion group <permaculture@listserv.oit.unc.edu>
> Subject: Patterns
> Date: 24 March 1998 02:06
> 
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> 
> Also the grumpy old man syndrome.. why are some of the most amazing
change
> agents "grumpy old men"?
> (Podilinsky - Australian biodynamics, Bill, Fukuoka, Yeomans, and I'm
> picking lots more).  Is it that the rest of us admirers are so bloody
> boring, or is it a protective mechanism to help them challenge the
> mainstream, or what?
> 
> Cheers Rene

I believe it is simply a matter of wisdom and knowledge that grow with age.
Let's replace "grumpy old men" with the respectful "elders". 

By the way: whatever happened to the (younger) Dave Holmgren?

Cheers,
Ute