permaculture

["Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflondon@mindspring.com>]

List subscribers:

I am delighted to announce that Art Biggert (SCook21809@aol.com) has
offered to co-own this list with me. I am sure the he is well known to
all of you. Contact Art about CSA issues as related to the list and me
about any technical issues, subscribing and unsubscribing and list
info.

Many thanks and enjoy!

Lawrence

For those needing it here is the FAQ for this list (apologies to
those who've already seen it too many times).
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Announcing the new Community Supported Agriculture mailing list.
       
A Community Supported Agriculture mailing list has been started
countesy of UNC MetaLab's Lyris server. Please distribute this
announcement wherever appropriate. The market-farming list may also
be of interest to many of you; information about it, this list and
other
agriculture and permaculture forums can be found at 
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden.

Art Biggert
CSA List Co-Owner
Lawrence London
CSA List Co-Owner

Lawrence F. London, Jr.  Venaura Farm
metalab.unc.edu/intergarden InterGarden
metalab.unc.edu/permaculture PermaSphere
metalab.unc.edu/intergarden/orgfarm AGINFO
lflondon@mindspring.com  london@metalab.unc.edu

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Welcome to the Community Supported Agriculture e-mail 
list and discussion group: csa@franklin.oit.unc.edu

Community Supported Agriculture Mailing List List FAQ

Frequently Asked Questions about the 
Community Supported Agriculture discussion group


* WHAT IS Community Supported Agriculture?

Name of list: csa
Posting address for list: csa@franklin.oit.unc.edu

csa@franklin.oit.unc.edu is a mailing list/newsgroup/webforum
for networking among farmers involved in operating a CSA

The listowners are:

Art Biggert
SCook21809@aol.com
Ocean Sky Farm
Bainbridge Island, WA 

Lawrence London 
Venaura Farm
lflondon@mindspring.com
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden


* HOW DO I SUBSCRIBE TO CSA?

Self-subscribe throuth the Web by accessing the website at
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=csa


Subscribing & unsubscribing to csa 
using email instead of the Web interface: 

In case you do not have Web access or for any reason need to use the
email
interface, here are some key commands;

In all cases, the default server address is:
lyris@franklin.oit.unc.edu

This is the email address to send commands to change the status of
your
account. Other addresses are shown where appropriate. Note that
commands
may be placed in either the subject line or in the body of the
message. For
some actions you have several choices of commands and you may use the
one
that suits your preferred mode.

SUBSCRIBING:
subscribe csa
subscribe csa your_name
join csa
join csa your_name
alternate address: join-csa@franklin.oit.unc.edu

UNSUBSCRIBING:
unsubscribe csa
leave csa
alternate address: leave-csa@franklin.oit.unc.edu

SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO DIGEST MODE:
set csa digest

SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO INDEX MODE:
set csa index

SETTING MEMBERSHIP TO DISCUSSION MODE:
set csa mail

TEMPORARILY SUSPENDING MAIL FROM THE LIST: set csa nomail
RESUMING MAIL FROM THE LIST:
set csa mail
set csa digest
set csa index

You may subscribe as an e-mail list, a digest of that list or just
gain
access to the usegroup which gives you access to posts from the web
but
doesn't deliver them to your mailbox. If you lack web access, or the
e-mail
commands don't seem to work, e-mail me at lflondon@mindspring.com
or london@metalab.unc.edu with your email address and (optional)
full name, and I'll sign you up.


* HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE TO CSA?

At the end of every post to this list there is text at the bottom of
the
page with automated unsubscription info and procedure. Here is a
sample
from a typical post:

You are currently subscribed to csa as: <your email address>
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
leave-csa-<user number>@franklin.oit.unc.edu

OR Self-unsubscribe by accessing the website at
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=csa.

If you lack web access, or the instructions don't work for you, e-mail
me
with your full name and email address, and I'll unsubscribe you.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND UNSUBSCRIBE MESSAGES TO THE ENTIRE LIST.


* DO I HAVE TO SUBSCRIBE TO READ THE POSTS?

You  can read the posts using the Web interface as well as the News
interface without being a subscriber to the list.

To read using the Web interface go to:

http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=csa and click
on the button that says "Visit csa without joining"

To read using the News interface use the following methods:

Method 1 using your news reader:
-
Access via Usenet news can be had by adding this news server name to
your
list of news servers in your news reader, or make it your default
server:

franklin.oit.unc.edu

Connect to the franklin.oit.unc.edu news server, download the list of
available newsgroups and subscribe to csa. Subscribing to the csa
newsgroup 
does not make you a subscriber to the list. You can post to the
newsgroup 
only if you are a list subscriber; otherwise you can read the
newsgroup.

Method 2 using your Web browser [+ news reader]: 
-
go to this URL (i.e. type this URL into the dialog box in your web
browser)
news://franklin.oit.unc.edu (news:// is part of a URL just like ftp://
and
http://) and download the list of available newsgroups and subscribe
to 
csa.

or go to this URL:
news://franklin.oit.unc.edu/csa for reading (and/or posting if
you're a list subscriber)


* HOW DO I POST TO Community Supported Agriculture?

Send your messages to:
csa@franklin.oit.unc.edu

You have to be a list subscriber to post to csa using either the
Email, Web or News interface. You can, however read all posts,
including the archives, as a non-subscriber.

In order to post to csa, you must be subscribed  to the list AND send
your
message from the email account that you used to subscribe to the list.
In
other  words, if you have several e-mail accounts or aliases, you need
to
send e-mail from the account you used to subscribed.

IMPORTANT NOTE: All posts to csa are permanently archived.  This
allows folks to go back and search for specific information in a
thread.
It also means your name is archived with your post.  If this is a
problem
for you, it's best you not use this list.


*  WHERE CAN I FIND ARCHIVES OF POSTINGS TO CSA?

On the world wide web at:
http://franklin.oit.unc.edu/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=csa


* WHAT ARE SOME OTHER WEBSITES OR DISCUSSION GROUPS 
  THAT MIGHT BE OF INTEREST

SANET-MG Sponsored by the Sustainable Agriculture Network at the USDA,
this list is international in scope. It is largely populated by
academics
and the discussions are frequently philosophical and/or policy
oriented.
However, farmers frequently lurk here and research on any given topic
is
available for the asking. Archives and subscription information can be
found at http://www.sare.org/san/htdocs/hypermail

BD-L Biodynamic farming list. The philosophy and practice of
biodynamics
http://www.biodynamics.com/ gets you to the website and subscription
to
the list. BD CSAs are listed here.

InterGarden at MetaLab (forums, links, information):
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden
http://metalab.unc.edu/permaculture

There's a special document with info on accessing all these lists in a
file at this URL: http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden/forumdoc.txt

Lists of interest at the MetaLab Lyris server include:

csa
soil-quality
seed-saving
community-foodsystems
herb 
market-farming
permaculture
permaculture-calendar

The Sustainable Farming Connection
Developed and maintained by Craig Cramer formerly editor of The New
Farm.
This site is a cornucopia of resources and topics. Sustainable
techniques
for farms of all sizes and crops.
http://sunsite.unc.edu/farming-connection/

ATTRA - Appropriate Technology Transfer to Rural Areas One of the best
appropriate scale and alternative crop sites on the web. Loaded with
publications and links. This is THE site for posting apprenticeship
and
internship opportunities www.ATTRA.org

IF YOU GARDEN FOR PLEASURE, LANDSCAPE, AND EXPERIMENTATION the
following
sites may be better suited to your needs

http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden InterGarden 
Rodale Press Gardening http://www.rodalepress.com./gardening.htm
National Gardening Association www.garden.org

IF YOU HOMESTEAD OR FARM PRIMARILY AS A LIFESTYLE CHOICE AND GROW FOOD
primarily to feed your own family, the following site may be better
suited
to your needs

http://www.homestead.org
Lawrence F. London, Jr.  Venaura Farm
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden InterGarden       
http://metalab.unc.edu/permaculture PermaSphere       
http://metalab.unc.edu/intergarden/orgfarm AGINFO
lflondon@mindspring.com  london@metalab.unc.edu