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- From: "Tommy Armstrong" <tfa AT brickengraver.com>
- To: "'Percy-L: Literary and Philosophical Discussion'" <percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [percy-l] hurricanes
- Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 08:34:18 -0400
Title: Message
I am at a bit of a loss about all the ranting and raving
about the Federal Government's response to this huge disaster. As a member of
local government and the super of the water treatment plant and the wastewater
treatment plant (albeit in a very small town), I am at a loss as to where the
City of New Orleans' emergency response plan was? Even we have plans in
place and on the shelf to put into action in response the the eventuality --and
that word means what it says--eventually it WILL happen--of a hurricane or other
natural disaster. To hear the mayor of New Orleans say he is pissed at the Fed.
Governments response, if I was a citizen of NO, I would be pissed at
the City's lack of adequate planning and pissed at him, the commissioners, and
the whole damned City government . It is first and foremost the
responsibility of the local officials. They above all others should be the
"First Responders." They know their city, their vulnerabilities, their
citizens. The city and state of Louisiana should bear the brunt of the the
criticism in my opinion. Where was the back up water supply located (bottled
water,etc)--where were the backup food supplies located, where was the means and
organizational structure to distribute them, etc. etc. What should the
procedures be to get the people out of harm's way in event of a disaster--after
all this is over--someone should study the failures of not the Fed Governments
response, but the response of the City of New Orleans. There was no evacuation
plan not because the Federal Government did not have one, but because the City
of New Orleans did not have one, or if it did, did not competently put it into
action. And after the town is evacuated, who should provide security.
Should not the mayor of NO have immediately had his request for the National
Guard to come ready to sign or already signed?
The order of business in such circumstances as
disaster planning seems to be for local governments " Its just too costly
and complicated for us to do and the Feds will come in anyway". Now I am in
perfect agreement that the Feds should provide relief--and the bulk of the
aftermath rebuilding, but in their main role is as support troops to
implement already in place strategies that the local governments have in
place.
If it had happened on Martha's Vineyard, I dare say that
the FED govt. would not even have to have been involved, as the officials there
are probably competent. And that has really nothing to do with race or economic
factors.
The Quote:
"yes your all correct. did you know that our federal government, has
strict guidelines on how it must respond to the sufferings of african-american
people. the lack of help, was actually due to a specific wait time, we must
follow, whenever there is a crisis involving poor black persons such as just
happened. our governing officials actually sit and watch and chuckle at their
suffering. then at the last moment, decide to send in help. oh wait, actually,
they knew what was going to happen, and could have prevented it.
"
Is completely without basis--not everything that goes wrong in the
world can be distilled down to "racial bigotry". The severity of the disaster in
New Orleans had nothing to do with racial bigotry. It had to do with an
incredibly destructive "Act Of God" and a lot of incompetent (and in many
many instances, competent) planning and/or incompetent execution of those plans.
No matter how well any plan was conceived and executed, there would have been
great amounts of damage--but I do find some fault in the City of New Orleans for
not adequately preparing for the safety of its citizens.
Tommy Armstrong
PO Box 484
Lillington, NC 27546
...with the method of science one beholds what is generally true
about individuals, but art beholds what is uniquely
true.
Walker Percy
Signposts in a Strange Land
From: percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Robert_Pauley AT oxy.com
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 11:17 PM
To: percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [percy-l] hurricanes
Agreed, Mr. Mitchell. And while we are human and fallible, some of
us also are exceptionally corrupt and incompetent, as, for example, the entire
political infrastructure of New Orleans, which knew about its weak sea walls for
years and did nothing, and which tolerated also for years a violent
and increasingly brazen criminal element (a violent crime rate 10 times the
national average). New Orleans cannot manage itself on a good day, and so if one
wants to know why it could not coordinate a swift and effective response on a
sequence of very bad ones, one may of course look for blame to the distance as
it one's predictable political cant, but it would make more sense to look
no further than an inept, third-world city hall.
-----Original Message-----well since both list are talking about it, and since both share common readers... why not chime in a piss people off.
From: percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:percy-l-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of KMitch2626 AT aol.com
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 7:56 PM
To: percy-l AT lists.ibiblio.org
Cc: peirce-l AT lyris.ttu.edu
Subject: [percy-l] hurricanes
yes your all correct. did you know that our federal government, has strict guidlines on how it must respond to the suffereings of african-american people. the lack of help, was actually due to a specific wait time, we must follow, whenever there is a crisis involving poor black persons such as just happened. our governing officials actually sit and watch and chuckle at their suffering. then at the last moment, decide to send in help. oh wait, actually, they knew what was going to happen, and could have prevented it.
we are human and fallible, and im certain mistakes were made and will be. but if you think this is race driven... call me cold, kick me off your listserves, but your full of shit!
my rant amidst a time of great sadness for those hit by a hurricane,
ken mitchell
quotes:
"It's the first week of school and I am utterly haunted by the horrors
of the Gulf Coast area (Why is help taking so long? Why isn't the
media asking the class or race questions?) I know these are not
direct Percy points, but I think there are parallels. Your point
about mimetic desire would be a lovely thread at which to pull.
Surely this applies to Tom More and the man on the train (pre-crash)
and even Will Barrett."
"IMHO the most significant anachy assoicated with the disaster in New Orleans is the US Federal government's woefully indifferent and criminally inadquate response to the suffering of poor black americans. As an american I'm ashamed of our religious and racial bigotry. First Iraq and now this. May god forgive us. "
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[percy-l] hurricanes,
KMitch2626, 09/02/2005
- Re: [percy-l] hurricanes, Patrick Lynch, 09/02/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
dabeck, 09/03/2005
- Re: [percy-l] hurricanes, dabeck, 09/03/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
Robert_Pauley, 09/02/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
Tommy Armstrong, 09/03/2005
- Re: [percy-l] hurricanes, J Rivas-Pita, 09/03/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
Karey, 09/03/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
Tommy Armstrong, 09/03/2005
- Re: [percy-l] hurricanes, Karey, 09/03/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
Tommy Armstrong, 09/03/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
Wade Riddick, 09/04/2005
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Re: [percy-l] hurricanes,
Tommy Armstrong, 09/04/2005
- Re: [percy-l] hurricanes, Wade Riddick, 09/05/2005
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- Re: [percy-l] hurricanes, Karey, 09/05/2005
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