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- From: tomcohen13 AT aol.com
- To: jhmiller AT uci.edu, gary AT garyhall.info
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- Subject: Re: [OA-monographs] Monograph thoughts
- Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 05:30:44 -0400
Dear Gary, Hillis, Sigi, et al,
I want to express my appreciation for all for the creative and very material work
this horizon involves--and I am still learning of the prospects as I absorb the contributions.
At this point, I want only to add a thought endorsing Hillis' suggestion.
It seems to me that hidden raison d'etre for this pioneering lies in being able to quickly
publish relevant monographs that are new, and in which
the author/s are not focused on remuneration. The work of making the archive of past
classics lost to print or current journals is a key labor, but without being romantic it does
seem, in the context of the "software" development, this future task should emerge as central.
When I imagine what that might look like, it does not turn immediatey toward picking up
volumes squeezed by a retiring publishing arena--not alone. I would recommend exploring
the prospect of a series of mirco-editorial teams with specific conceptual terrain or interests.
These might explore, solicit, or rigorously vet monographs written toward 21st century
horizons--in which quick publication would be relevant. If the press/site were known for
such a ventures and did it well, it would be turned to by readers. Perhaps this is several
seasons premature, but seems worth putting out for discussion.
All best, ongoing,
Tom
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From: J H MILLER <jhmiller AT uci.edu>
To: Gary Hall <gary AT garyhall.info>
Cc: ohp AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 11:49 pm
Subject: Re: [OA-monographs] Monograph thoughts
Dear Gary, Sean, and all: I agree with the comments Gary and Sean have made, with a slight leaning toward new stuff not likely to get published by commercial or so-called university presses (so-called because some of them at least more and more behave pretty much like the commercial presses, in spite of their tax exempt status. We all know the reasons for this: reduced subvention by the universities, declining market for, for example, single author monographs or monographs by young first-time authors. Catch 22: you must already have published in order to get published.)
I think there may be a lot of wonderful mss out there that are too long for journal articles and too short for books, i.e. 90-150 ms pp. OHP might well do a great service to scholarship by publishing these in order to prevent authors from trying to stretch 100 pp. into 250 pp. Some topics just come out 100 pp., as has happened to me this spring with a thing on telepathy in Derrida, Freud, Browning. Trying to make a regular-sized book out of this wd just dilute it. I suspect a lot of such mss exist out there. Either journal essay or full-sized book is a strait-jacket.
So: Short original monographs. That's my suggestion for the discussion. These wd need to be peer-reviewed, of course.
best, hillis
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Gary Hall <gary AT garyhall.info> wrote:
Dear Sean,
Thanks, this is really helpful. And no, I don't think this is material
we have already talked through. To continue the conversation...
I wonder if it wouldn't be easier, cheaper and quicker to publish a lot
of the material you mention - books that go out of print and whose
rights revert to the authors, specialist monographs published in xerox
or photolitho, those which have exhausted their commercial potential or
which have no commercial potential - in a subject-orientated or
institutional OA repository? One of the ideas behind the CSeARCH archive
I'm involved with via Culture Machine, for instance
(http://www.culturemachine.net/csearch), is to make this possible with
regard to books and monographs that are cultural studies and cultural
theory-related. But I'm not trying to self-publicize: there are of
course many other such OA archives (although you're right, not all of
them accept books, I know).
My experience of being involved with the launch of OHP was being on the
receiving end of a number of queries as to if and when OHP was going to
be producing monographs. And my sense was that this was motivated, not
so much by a desire to have access to hard-to-get titles from the past -
although I agree with you, this is very important - but more in
response to the general 'crisis' in monograph publishing in the
humanities in the present. People in the humanities are simply finding
it harder and harder to publish research-led books. And yet it's often
these books that they're most interested in writing and which they feel
can make a significant contribution to the field. It's certainly on
research led monographs that their careers often depend.
I very much like the idea of creating a pedagogical link between the
idea of OHP publishing monographs and those departments and institutions
that are producing skilled professionals for the publishing world. Long
term it'd also be a great way of breaking down some of the simplistic
oppositions between publishers on the one hand and academics on the
other associated with OA.
Thanks, Gary
--
Gary Hall Professor of Media and Performing Arts
School of Art and Design, Coventry University
Co-editor of Culture Machine http://www.culturemachine.net
Director of the Cultural Studies Open Access Archive
http://www.culturemachine.net/csearch
Co-founder of the Open Humanities Press
http://www.openhumanitiespress.org
My website http://www.garyhall.info
Sean Cubitt wrote:
Dear Colleagues
A coup,e of swift thoughts, as I have deadlines to chase this weekend
1. there are numbers of books which go out of print every year.Standard
contracts seem in general to revert rights to authors. Republishing
significant lost humanities titles, especially those whose specialismor
timeliness militates against republication might eb a significantactivity
to broker. If scanned, such texts require a lot less production.
2. I presume Mark davis is on this list - mark's department and nodoubt
others across the world produce highly skilled professionals for the
publishing industry. There might be a possibility of creating apedagogical
link to the mutual benefit of both parties
3. In my current research I keep coming up on 1960s and 70s specialist
monographs published in what appears to be xerox or photolitho,especially
in history and phlosophy of science. Unless a learned society has a
monographs arm titles like 'The History of Colorimetry andSensitometry' are
not going to have a commercial life, but as in that case, sean FJohnston's
book is the making of mine. I suppose my contention is really this
Whiuch monographs most benefit from digital publishing?
- those which have already exhausted their commercial potential
- those which have no commercial potential
- those which are urgently attached to the present - such titlesmight be
revised for hardcopy publication, so might be considered pre=press,on the
scientific model
There may also be a category for which hyperlinking is of value, orthe
cheapness of colour reproduction
My apologies if this is all material you've have talked throughalready, and
thanks for inviting me to participate
Sean
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[OA-monographs] Monograph thoughts,
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J H MILLER, 06/21/2008
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