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[Louis Pittman <lpittman@murraystate.edu>]

Good to see 'old familiar' names surfacing... Jackie, Richard, Donna (we do
talk from time to time).

I remember my last discussion with Lucille, some years back, about
gooseberries... seems that she'd never been able to successfully grow
'Glenndale', which I *think* I have here... better than Pixwell, and grows
well in a spot that is shaded in the hot afternoon.

Lucky Pittman
GREAT crop of pecans & hickories here in 2023.

On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 5:20 PM Jacquelyn Kuehn via NAFEX <
nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

> Thank you all for your recommendations on varieties and sources of red
> currants. I bought some nice black currants from Lucile several years ago,
> so I’ll check with her, though I live in western PA—rather different from
> her climate.
>
> So good to hear from you all—I miss you!
>
> gratefully,
>
> Jackie
>
>
> Jacquelyn Kuehn
> jakuehn@verizon.net
>
>
>
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> >   1. Re:  Red Currant recommendations (Ginda Fisher)
> >
> >
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2024 16:08:30 -0500
> > From: Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us>
> > To: North American Fruit Explorers mailing list at ibiblio
> >       <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>,  Richard Moyer <ramoyer@gmail.com>,
> nafex
> >       <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [NAFEX] Red Currant recommendations
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> > I'd also like to recommend Nourse as a source of current and other berry
> bushes
> >
> > https://noursefarms.com/
> >
> > They carry rovada, jonkheer van tets, a white and a pink. I have trouble
> with some worm that eventually kills current bushes (and with chipmunks who
> aggressively harvest them) and found rovada a little more resistant to the
> insects. But i liked the flavor of jonkheer van tets slightly better.
> Honestly, the flavor is similar, and i turn most of them into delicious
> jelly.
> >
> > Nourse gives more detailed information on their various offerings than
> most nurseries, and will even tell you "this one doesn't taste as good, but
> it's easy to grow", or similar less-than-glowing descriptions.
> >
> > On January 3, 2024 3:41:56 PM EST, Richard Moyer <ramoyer@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> Agreed with Lucky.  Lucille been at this for decades. So worth learning
> >> from.  She's a master propagator.
> >>
> >> Jackie, I forget where you live.  You may want to check for a Red
> Currant
> >> trial in a climate similar to your own.  For instance, there were
> >> gooseberries which performed wonderfully for Ed Mashburn in central PA,
> >> which did poorly in the NCGR Repository in Corvallis, OR.  (Saw both
> sites
> >> with my own eyes, surprised at the difference.)
> >>
> >> European breeding is about yield, for land is so limited there.  If I
> >> recall correctly, the Dutch red currant cultivars were at or near the
> top,
> >> for consistent yields at certain US sites.  Ed settled on Detvan, Tatran
> >> and Rovada, as his best reds, and Lucille offers some or all of those
> >> three.  Do read her comments on each.  Mildew can be a killer in humid
> >> parts of the US.  Lucille's Willamette Valley farm in OR is quite dry in
> >> the summer, very low humidity.  If she notes foliar diseases there, I'd
> run
> >> from planting those susceptible cultivars, most anywhere.
> >>
> >> Please find below a lengthy, specific, discussion between Donna and me,
> >> 2009, about Ribes potentials in East TN.
> >>
> >>
> https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#search/detvan+tatran+rovada/FMfcgxRnnMtQcvnDWjVDcwQCDKMZzWQc
> >>
> >> I confuse the names of my kids and pets some days, so thankful to Google
> >> for easily retrieving posts written15 yrs ago.
> >>
> >> Grace and peace to you all!  Headed to Phoenix next week, will be
> foraging
> >> fruits and nuts there.  Did same in Mojave Desert with a group of
> students
> >> 3 weeks ago.
> >> Richard Moyer
> >> SW VA, 1800 ft.  Lows very rarely in single digits.  Highs rarely in the
> >> 90s.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 3, 2024 at 2:47?PM <nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
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> >>>   1. Re:  ribes recommendations (Louis Pittman)
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> >>>
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >>> From: Louis Pittman <lpittman@murraystate.edu>
> >>> To: North American Fruit Explorers mailing list at ibiblio <
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> >>> Cc:
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> >>> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2024 13:45:03 -0600
> >>> Subject: Re: [NAFEX] ribes recommendations
> >>> Jackie,
> >>> Have never grown or eaten a red currant, but I suppose if I were going
> to
> >>> purchase one or several, I'd be going to Lucille Whitman, at Whitman
> Farms:
> >>> https://www.whitmanfarms.com
> >>>
> >>> Lucky Pittman
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2024 at 5:54?PM Jacquelyn Kuehn via NAFEX <
> >>> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Friends, can you recommend a good, reliable red currant, and suggest a
> >>>> place to purchase it?
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jackie Kuehn
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Nov 2, 2022, at 12:36?AM, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
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> >>>>> 1.  Seed and Plant Resources - Lemonary In Bashkortostan
> >>>>>   (Lawrence London)
> >>>>> 2.  American Persimmon (Henry)
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> >>>>> From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
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> >>>>> Subject: [nafex] Seed and Plant Resources - Lemonary In Bashkortostan
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> >>>>> Seed and Plant Resources - Lemonary In Bashkortostan
> >>>>>
> >>>>
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> https://sites.google.com/site/seedkeeping/international-resources/lemonary-in-bashkortostan
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jerry Lehman, with a group of other Nafex members, went to Russia to
> a
> >>>>> region where specialized varieties of plum were cultivated. He
> >>> documented
> >>>>> the trip with text and video
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> >>>>> Message: 2
> >>>>> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 04:36:50 +0000 (UTC)
> >>>>> From: Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>
> >>>>> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> >>>>> Subject: [nafex] American Persimmon
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> >>>>> American Persimmon
> >>>>> Diospyros virginiana
> >>>>> Are any of you growing persimmons in the North?
> >>>>> Persimmons are listed as Zone 4 hardy. The U of Mn Extension asks if
> we
> >>>> can provide any info on people's experience in Zone 4.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --Henry Fieldseth
> >>>>> Minneapolis, Minnesota, Zone 4
> >>>>>
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> > Typed with swype. Who knows what i intended to say?
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