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[Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>]

 Lee,

Thanks for the info.

I posted this question on the nafex facebook group as well as to this 
listserve. The replies via this system answered my question.

The 2 replies from facebook provided fine information, but did not answer my 
question at all.

While facebook might have more "action." I am glad this list is still here!

--Henry


     On Friday, August 5, 2022, 01:56:25 PM CDT, Lee Reich 
<leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi Henry,

I first learned about musk strawberries decades ago and then, while working 
at the Fruit Lab of the USDA, wanted to try them. They were unavailable in 
this country then, but I was able to import them and waited for their 2 year 
quarantine. I know that other people have gotten fruit from them but I never 
got more than very few, very small fruits. The variety I had (and still have 
a few of, from years of runnering, which it does prolifically) is Profumata 
di Tortona, which was was grown commercially in Italy. I did have a male 
pollinator also, called Capron.

I consider this strawberry to be one of the best tasting, sort of like 
strawberry and raspberry. But I don’t know why it’s yield and size were so 
poor. 

By the way, I devoted a chapter to musk and alpine strawberries (the latter 
of which I do grow, the white variety, which is delectable) in my now out of 
print book Uncommon Fruit for Every Garden.  It will be updated and back in 
print in a few years.

Both alpine and musk strawberries survive my Zone 5 winters.

Lee
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> On Aug 5, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Bors, Bob <bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:
> 
> Hi Henry,
> 
> The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
> In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter 
> rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
> Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
> This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not  F. Mochata. It did fine.
> 
> Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
> Berries can be as big as an inch.
> It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
> Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male 
> and female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
> I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
> I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago.  I don't have them 
> anymore.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Bob Bors, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Head of the Fruit Program
> Dept. of Plant Sciences
> 51 Campus Drive
> Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
> www.fruit.usask.ca
> 
> 
> 
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> I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
> 
> Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want 
> to add some new varieties.
> 
> A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know 
> anything about it.
> 
> Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for 
> mid-continental Zone 4.
> 
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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 Bob,

Thanks. This confirms they are worth trying in Minnesota!

We will be selling 6 seedlings in a pack, so that should cover the gender 
issue.

Now the difficult task of estimating how many people will want!

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com


     On Friday, August 5, 2022, 11:16:31 AM CDT, Bors, Bob 
<bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:  
 
 Hi Henry,

The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter 
rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not  F. Mochata. It did fine.

Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
Berries can be as big as an inch.
It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male and 
female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago.  I don't have them 
anymore.

Cheers,


Bob Bors, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Head of the Fruit Program
Dept. of Plant Sciences
51 Campus Drive
Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
www.fruit.usask.ca

 

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 I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to 
add some new varieties.

A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know 
anything about it.

Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for 
mid-continental Zone 4.

--Henry Fieldseth
Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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I am learning and expanding my growing capabilities in preparation for
retirement.
I am currently building a sand box plant propagation bed that will have
overhead irrigation spray heads that can turn on every 10 minutes for as
5/10 seconds during the day light hours.
I am in North Alabama (Zone 7A/B) which has hot humid summers and early
springs with late frosts.
Want to be growing perennials like fruit and vegetables that do not require
chemicals to succeed.
What shade cloth should I use (50%)?
Does anyone have suggestions on what fruit veggies grow well in a sand box
like mine?
Would hardwood or softwood cuttings be best?
Thank you
Dennis