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[Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>]

That is indeed what they look like. 

There is one seed per fruit, about 3/4 inch long and less than 1/4 inch wide, 
with longitudinal grooves.

I was told to eat them as they were (dried), there was no mention of any 
cooking. Pealing them was messy and counterproductive.

They were called "sultan iğde" (to my ear, pronounced: ee day). According to 
my Turkish friend, iğde alone refers to the genus /Elaeagnus/ and "sultan 
iğde" refers to the specific trees with good fruit.

No mention of Trebizond or date. They look a bit like dates though.

Turkish wikipedia has quite a list of /Elaeagnus/, but it does not include 
/E. orientalis/ (which western botany seems to have lumped into /L. 
angustifolia/ without even a varietal separation).

I don't read Turkish, but the wikitranslation does suggest that grafting may 
be necessary for the best fruit.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=tr&u=https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C4%25B0%25C4%259Fde&prev=search

--Henry



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On Sun, 9/11/16, PATTY <jrplelie@centurylink.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [nafex] trezibond date
 To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" 
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
 Date: Sunday, September 11, 2016, 9:18 PM
 
 Jerry, Here's what a
 bag of E. orientalis looks like.  Oh, I missed another
 synonym, Lotus tree fruit.  It is definitely not a
 Diospyros.  Traversing so many Middle Eastern cultures
 hasn't helped the list of names.  
 
 http://persianbasket.com/sadaf-senjed
 
 Jim Elie
 
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Jerry Lehman" <jwlehmantree@gmail.com>
 To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
 Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:47:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [nafex] trezibond date
 
 On 9/11/2016 8:29 PM, Lee
 Reich wrote:
 >   (This
 red-fruited form has sometimes been referred to erroneously
 as the Trebizond date, which is in fact the date plum,
 Diospyros lotus, another small, dark, sweet, dried fruit
 eaten in that part of the world.)
 It sure
 looks to me like there is a lot of confusion on names.
 Nothing 
 new here. The 1st message on the
 subject refers to cleaning the seed 
 with
 his teeth. If the Trebizond Date where D. lotus it could
 have up to 
 8 seeds. Jerry Lehman
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