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[Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>]

Robert from the Men's and Women's Garden Club of Minneapolis has had great 
luck growing pawpaws from seed he got from Oikos.

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, MN, Zone 4

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On Sun, 9/6/15, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [nafex] Pawpaw question and observation
 To: "Anton Callaway" <marillen@earthlink.net>, "mailing list at ibiblio - 
Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
 Date: Sunday, September 6, 2015, 7:48 AM
 
 I'm about 200 miles north of the
 native range of pawpaws, I was
 thinking 0% success with grafted pawpaws was a hardiness
 issue, but
 maybe there is something else going on.  A few of my
 grated trees that
 died had done well in pots for a couple years and were maybe
 1/2" or
 more caliper.  Everyone has winterkilled, scion and
 rootstock.
 
 ~mIEKAL
 
 
 
 On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Anton Callaway <marillen@earthlink.net>
 wrote:
 > I'd had 100% success of planting grafted pawpaws until
 I tried at my most recent site.  At this site, I've had
 100% failure, though understocks do great.  The most
 annoying failure was a Shennandoah tree that grew well above
 the graft for two years, then croaked this Spring.
 >
 > Anton
 > NC Piedmont
 >
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 >>From: Jerry Lehman <jwlehmantree@gmail.com>
 >>Sent: Aug 19, 2015 9:44 AM
 >>To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied
 Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
 >>Cc: Cliff England <nuttrees@prtcnet.org>
 >>Subject: Re: [nafex] Pawpaw question and
 observation
 >>
 >>On 8/19/2015 8:56 AM, Louis Pittman wrote:
 >>> My experience has been similar to mIEKAL's -
 container-grown pawpaws that I
 >>> grafted and transplanted a year or so later,
 often grew for a year or two,
 >>> then the graft 'woke up dead' after winter, and
 the understock re-grew.
 >>> Now... in-groung established seedlings that
 were topworked to named
 >>> selections... no decline or death of the
 grafted variety.
 >>>
 >>> But, again, it may be that if I did more than
 chunk 'em in the ground and
 >>> walk away, they might have fared better.
 >>Lucky,
 >>
 >>Thanks for your input, I would like to hear if
 others have had the same
 >>experience. It is quite common for a grafted tree to
 abort the graft the
 >>year of planting if it comes under stress. I've not
 heard reports of
 >>this following survival of the 1st year. This may be
 problematic with
 >>pawpaws and may be involved with the pawpaws dislike
 for being
 >>transplanted.
 >>
 >>In thinking about personal experience. I've only
 planted 3 grafted
 >>potted pawpaws and none of them survived the past 2
 years. One that did
 >>survive after the graft failed died the 3rd year.
 But my experience with
 >>only 3 instances isn't enough to draw a conclusion.
 I believe it was
 >>partially my fault as I may not have cared for them
 sufficiently. We
 >>need to hear from more planters of grafted potted
 pawpaws.
 >>
 >>About 5 years ago I planted 33 pawpaw seedlings from
 the IDNR nursery.
 >>I also have a wild population and took the tractor
 back and brought in
 >>dirt from those root systems in an attempt to bring
 in the Mycorrhizae
 >>fungi specific to a Asimina and back filled the
 holes of every other one
 >>with this soil. I do have a water wagon that I can
 hall 200 gallons at a
 >>time and spray onto the ground, simulating rain. I
 had also applied
 >>pelletized sulfur to the ground and tilled in before
 planting. They were
 >>planted in well dug holes, not chunked in. (Lucky,
 not trying to put
 >>your method down as it's difficult not to do much
 else when planting
 >>potted pawpaws.)  After planting when active
 growth had begun which is
 >>when I normally graft trees I grafted all of them
 using the Omega or
 >>saddle graft. Of the 33, none of the grafts survived
 past the 1st year
 >>and only 3 of the under stock survived. It's hell a
 be a total failure,
 >>and after all that work of planting those 33!
 >>
 >>Jerry
 >>
 >>
 >>
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