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[Jeffrey Boulier <boulierinasia@yahoo.com>]

1) Thinking about the wave of human expansion in the Americas (and 
elsewhere). I wonder what other large temperate fruits may have been wiped 
out by humans after they exploded onto the scene. There should be a list 
somewhere, but a brief search of the internet didn't find it?
2) I wonder to what extent there's been positive selection even for wild 
apples shaped by human tastes -- I believe Indians rapidly took over as 
distributors of pawpaw seeds after coming to the Americas, and were 
responsible for a huge expansion in the territory of the American lotus.
3) For that matter, what about current negative selection pressures? The 
seeds of particularly large and good tasting wild raspberries in the 
proximity of humans are going to disproportionately wind up in the sewage 
system instead of being, well, pooped out in more congenial locations as they 
might have been in the past.  


     On Monday, March 16, 2015 10:56 AM, Claude Jolicoeur 
<cjoli@gmc.ulaval.ca> wrote:
   

 Actually, what is said there about tropical fruit 
would also hold true for apples. The fruit of the 
wild apple trees in Kazakhstan don't have much to 
envy as far as sugar is concerned to the grocery 
store fruit. The only thing is in the wild there 
is a lot more variability in size, bitterness, astringency, sugar, and so on.

And in fact, it has been shown that selection of 
apple trees on sugar content and flavor dates 
from way before manking as bears and other large 
mammals have been doing it by eating the best 
tasting fruits and dissiminating their seeds...

Claude Jolicoeur

Author, The New Cider Maker's Handbook
http://www.cjoliprsf.ca/
http://www.chelseagreen.com/bookstore/item/the_new_cider_makers_handbook/


Le 07:05 2015.03.15, vous avez écrit:
>  See
>  <http://rawfoodsos.com/2011/05/31/wild-and-ancient-fruit>
>
>  Doug Woodard
>  St. Catharines, Ontario
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Vanessa Smith <vanessa.mt.smith@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Have you all seen this?
>
> http://www.eyesteelfilm.com/fruithunters
>
> can anyone relate to this - "before long it became an obsession, and I was
> no longer a normal person"
>

Thanks for posting this. There are people, athletes and marathoners
included, who are dedicated, serious fruitarians
though raw vegetables are also eaten with fruit. They eat huge quantities
of them to get the calories they need.
With disbelief I witnessed a fruitarian/vegan friend prepare and eat one of
his meals.

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