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[Little John <moonwise_herbs@sbcglobal.net>]

Hector,

This is a question that was brought up by Peter Chrisbacher last year and it 
still intrigues me. I've been collecting pods from some average trees in my 
town so I can experiment. Something that seems like a faster option is to cut 
the pods in half the long way. The cut would be just above the seeds. There 
is very little goo between the seeds anyway. Then you have a piece of pod 
with the majority of the green goo. That can be cut into shorter lengths and 
fermented into beer or wine. Thats one thought I had.

I also thought about grinding the trimmed pieces of pod in a blender but the 
outer pod had a bitter alkaloid that is really unpleasant. I wouldn't want 
that to taint the finished product. I'm gonna try making some wine real soon.

Wish me luck,
Little John
Sheboygan, WI


 
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 From: Hector Black <hblack1925@fastmail.fm>
To: North American Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> 
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:33 PM
Subject: [nafex] honey locust alchemy: goo into sugar??
 

howdy…

I've got several mature, improved varieties of honey locust (gleditsia 
triacanthos) trees dropping their pods in the orchard right now. I've read 
several accounts that the pulp inside can be processed into sugar. Boy, that 
green goop is so sweet I can't wait to process it.!! However, I have yet to 
find any resources that'll help me figure out the most efficient methods of 
extraction. I followed a couple links to a guy in VA (Andy Wilson?) who 
purportedly leads NAFEX's honey locust committee.?? …but alas, the links are 
all broken. Perhaps he's retired? Anyway, does anybody know some more 
efficient method than just cracking each pod open individually, and going at 
the green blob inside with a spoon? Furthermore, what am I supposed to do 
with my vat of green goop once it's been liberated?? …take it down to the 
sugar bush and boil it down just like the maple sap? I could really use some 
advice before my pods all dry up, or I get carpal tunnel from
 repetitive spooning. Any experienced Gleditsia milkers out there?

many thanks,
Hector
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That is how tree nurseries around here do it.  They dig it up and plant it
into a wide shallow box to await resale.

Jim Fruth
Pequot Lakes, MN

Re:  Maybe one of the spreading has rooted down.  This would mean a smaller
root mass, and easier digging & hauling.  Look under the shrub as you gently
lift up on various branches.  Best of luck with your preservation efforts!