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[Sarah Kehler Ewing <skkewing@yahoo.com>]

I have both too, but I'd sure like to try this.  I agree that I would never 
trust them in my orchard cuz they might just get untrained and then it would 
be too late.  But one of these days I will not be home to greet them on my 
doorstep when they do get out (they are all pets so they come find me when 
they get out!) and this little safety precaution that might mean I would 
still have an orchard left when I did get home!

 
Sarah 


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Subject: Re: [nafex] Goats and sheep learn to avoid eating olive and grape 
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HAHAHA.

Yup that works until the day it doesn't.  And goats will strip the bark
girdling fruit trees.  Both species will use fruit trees as rubbing posts.

I have had both goats and sheep.  Short of electrifying the entire tree or
crop I would NEVER rely on aversion training to protect my fruit from them.

On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 4:40 AM, <dwoodard@becon.org> wrote:

>  See
>  http://www.enn.com/top_stories/article/44981
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Hello All,

I am looking at my scion wood order for this spring and and am inquiring 
whether anyone has any experience with any of these varieties, especially in 
the Upper Midwest. They are primarily older European apple varieties 
considered as having polygenic disease resistance. Admittedly they may 
perform differently under differing conditions so I thought I would see if 
any NAFEXers dealt with these varieties.

Talipournin
Ringstad
Koidu Renette
Bortlinger
Red Sternrenette (Red Herbst Calville)
Emneth Early (Early Victoria)
Kardinal Bea
Edelborsdorfer
Langdons (Langton's Nonsuch)
Stahls (Winter) Prince
Jakob Fischer

Thanks,

Jim Elie
zone 5a
Pulaski, WI