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[Caren Kirk <quirky@videotron.ca>]

 Thanks Dave and Scott. I have had these plants for a couple of years 
now, so I know how vigorous they can get. I too do my "sorting" in the 
winter typically and just trim back any really annoying growth in the 
summer.

On the pergola there is basically 2 posts with trellis attached. Each 
trellis is about 18" wide and they are about 6-8 foot apart. Once 
they've grown up the 8ft trellis (which will pretty much be immediate as 
the plants are mature and trailing out of their transplant pots!) they 
have another 7 or 8 feet to grow horizotally along the top where they 
can spread to fill out the whole roof (about 8' by8').

As I said I am just greedy and want as much fruit as possible! I agree 
about the grape though, I think they would be too aggressive for it.

Thanks again for your input.

Caren

On 8/30/2012 1:36 PM, Scott Smith wrote:
> I have kiwis planted very close and it is indeed difficult to sort out who is who.  
> What I do is do the "sorting" in the winter when I can see where the leafless 
> vines are coming from, giving each kiwi an exclusive zone on the trellis.  In the 
> summer I just hedge them with hedge trimmers and don't pay attention to which vine I am 
> pruning (except I do try to butcher my males right after bloom is over).
>
> In the long run they will fill in any space so the only reason to have 
> multiple females is to try multiple varieties and/or to get more fruit before 
> they fill in.
>
> Make sure you have at least 5' of row-feet per plant to make things more 
> manageable.  So the number of kiwis depends on how big the pergola is.
>
> Kiwis grow very fast and I would not put grapes on the same structure.   I 
> have enough problems keeping the kiwis off my grapes the next row over.
>
> Scott
>
> On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Dan Nave wrote:
>
> > I'm no expert, but that sounds like a bad idea to me.  What if your male is 
> > more vigorous?  How are
> > you going to tell which is which if you need to prune?  At least, if they are 
> > planted in separate
> > holes, you can follow the vines up from the ground.  But, that's just my 
> > opinion without actually
> > having tried it...
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/29/2012 4:12 PM, Caren Kirk wrote:
> > >    This spring I dug up my male and female A. Kolomikta to extend my
> > > deck. They have been doing fine in large pots through the exceptionally
> > > hot summer, and now I am ready to re-plant them next to my brand new
> > > pergola.
> > >
> > > As I am always greedy to have more fruit, I started thinking that maybe
> > > it could support more plants. Has anyone tried plating more than one
> > > hardy kiwi in the same hole? I was thinking maybe 2  per trellis post
> > > (i.e. a male and female in one hole and 2 females in the other).
> > >
> > > Do you think there will be problems with one overtaking the other?
> > >
> > > I was also contemplating having half of the pergola for kiwi and the
> > > other half for a grape vine. Would one be too vigorous at the expense of
> > > the other? Is a blue "Concorde" type grape over a wood deck a bad idea?
> > >
> > > Caren Kirk
> > > St. Jerome, QC, where my poor fruit trees and shrubs have been sorely
> > > neglected this year
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