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  • From: Caren Kirk <>
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  • Subject: Re: [nafex] Planting hardy kiwis
  • Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2012 09:58:53 -0400

Thanks Dave and Scott. I have had these plants for a couple of years now, so I know how vigorous they can get. I too do my "sorting" in the winter typically and just trim back any really annoying growth in the summer.

On the pergola there is basically 2 posts with trellis attached. Each trellis is about 18" wide and they are about 6-8 foot apart. Once they've grown up the 8ft trellis (which will pretty much be immediate as the plants are mature and trailing out of their transplant pots!) they have another 7 or 8 feet to grow horizotally along the top where they can spread to fill out the whole roof (about 8' by8').

As I said I am just greedy and want as much fruit as possible! I agree about the grape though, I think they would be too aggressive for it.

Thanks again for your input.


On 8/30/2012 1:36 PM, Scott Smith wrote:
I have kiwis planted very close and it is indeed difficult to sort out who is who.
What I do is do the "sorting" in the winter when I can see where the leafless
vines are coming from, giving each kiwi an exclusive zone on the trellis. In the
summer I just hedge them with hedge trimmers and don't pay attention to which vine I am
pruning (except I do try to butcher my males right after bloom is over).

In the long run they will fill in any space so the only reason to have
multiple females is to try multiple varieties and/or to get more fruit before
they fill in.

Make sure you have at least 5' of row-feet per plant to make things more
manageable. So the number of kiwis depends on how big the pergola is.

Kiwis grow very fast and I would not put grapes on the same structure. I
have enough problems keeping the kiwis off my grapes the next row over.


On Aug 29, 2012, at 11:44 PM, Dan Nave wrote:

I'm no expert, but that sounds like a bad idea to me. What if your male is
more vigorous? How are
you going to tell which is which if you need to prune? At least, if they are
planted in separate
holes, you can follow the vines up from the ground. But, that's just my
opinion without actually
having tried it...


On 8/29/2012 4:12 PM, Caren Kirk wrote:
This spring I dug up my male and female A. Kolomikta to extend my
deck. They have been doing fine in large pots through the exceptionally
hot summer, and now I am ready to re-plant them next to my brand new

As I am always greedy to have more fruit, I started thinking that maybe
it could support more plants. Has anyone tried plating more than one
hardy kiwi in the same hole? I was thinking maybe 2 per trellis post
(i.e. a male and female in one hole and 2 females in the other).

Do you think there will be problems with one overtaking the other?

I was also contemplating having half of the pergola for kiwi and the
other half for a grape vine. Would one be too vigorous at the expense of
the other? Is a blue "Concorde" type grape over a wood deck a bad idea?

Caren Kirk
St. Jerome, QC, where my poor fruit trees and shrubs have been sorely
neglected this year

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